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I don't understand it, that's for sure. But I haven't understood their goalie decisions since Ullmark left. Just be glad he didn't put Geertson in goal.

St. Louis could be a possible trade partner for something. They are off to a bad start so might be looking for a shake up start. Maybe they want Ellis back? I'd talk to them if I was Adams.

I'm not the one who said "he's injury prone". I was defending him. I do think however that he can get injured easily because of his age and size. It's not a surprise. I think we have been lucky so far with him.

I think the "something better" is the question. Who? What the idea advocates is futures for a present. What team is looking to unload a present player for a future package? We got McLeod that way because Edmonton was cap squeezed and knew they wouldn't re-sign him either for that reason. They ditched Arvidsson this year to shed cap as well. So which team wants to shed cap right now? I doubt there is one. This sort of deal might be possible before the deadline as a team wants some sort of cap relief to land somebody else but I doubt it's overly easy to make a good deal right now.

No, that's total bs. He is small and young. They expect too much too soon. The good thing is he doesn't give a F and plays with an edge. It's who he is. The failure is in the Sabres' expectations and development. A kid that age needs to be brought in a little slower and needs time to build up his body. Dude, he's still growing. Not in height but in muscle and strength. I remember back when I was 20 I was a tall skinny dude from stretching through my teens. Lifted weights and worked out and my chest, shoulders, arms, all bulked up and expanded. When I was 22/23 I remember looking in a mirror and realizing, oh wow, I'm a pretty big guy. It's no different for pro athletes. It's also no accident that that's why they head into their peak years in their mid 20s. You forget, because he's been playing for 2 years, that he is still very very young.

Okay, so who is your trade partner with that contract? Who needs a goalie? I can't think of a landing spot where cap money and need say get UPL.

Because he's a 20 year old kid playing big minutes against big men. I love Benson, but I'm surprised he hasn't been hurt even more and sooner.

Helenius seems to have a little more snarl (or whatever you want to call it) so he is the one guy in Rochester I would prefer to keep for next year but really, if they can make the team better now I'm open to moving anybody in Rochester or picks.

He has skill, but he's not what we need. If he stays healthy, Greenway should give us more. If I could trade Östlund (plus whatever) for another Doan I'd do it in a heartbeat.

This is correct. Just as an aside, I think the reason the Bruins signed him to the overpay was he demolished Trent Frederic the year before and Frederic wasn't exactly a pushover. That sort of thing got Cam Neely all excited.

I agree. As a quick illustration of the failure, we all love Josh Doan right? Adams could have drafted him instead of Rosen, or as it turned out even instead of Poltapov.

Well I guess you take some solace from coming back from being down but really, they let Boston play Boston's game and didn't press the center of the ice. Boston has so little talent they just kind of rope a dope and occasionally counter attack. Sabres needed to be more physical and drive to the middle. They didn't. They lost. I did find it highly ironic that Doan muscled through Jokiharju to create that tying goal. That was the kind of thing that has happened to the Sabres for years with guys muscling the likes of Jokiharju only now he's on the Bruins and Sabres did the muscling. I'm not impressed with Kesselring so far but don't want to judge too much too early. At this point though Doan seems the more important addition. He seems to be a welcome missing piece style wise. Greenway going knee on knee twice. Don't remember him being that dirty but I'd rather he used the body. Still, big man made an impact and got under the Bruins skin. Zadorov chirps more than Shorsey I think. He does amuse me. They are better, but it's not good enough. They need to go get another Doan. Whatever it takes.

True, but highlighting it as an event just seems so wrong on so many levels.

and the sadder thing is the league doesn't get it. They just made the Vegas Philly game a national game as the "return of Carter Hart to Philly" game. I mean talk about not getting it.

I don't know what it is but he looks bigger. Maybe being older his weight is spread out differently idk, but he just looks bigger in the net to me. Maybe Levi crouches in more? I just think if I'm a shooter coming in I see more net with Levi.

I want to get rid of players that play soft. Chinakov has more snarl than Quinn. Quinn can be great in open ice. He'd be a liability in a playoff series with a team like Florida.

Ellis is physically bigger. It matters. His rebound control needs work but good D in front of him can help with that. Levi's weaknesses are less teachable fixes and more to do with his size imo.

Bruins are not very good so you have to jump on them and make their system collapse. Ottawa did it to them so no reason Sabres can't. Bruins will try to force everything to the wall and if they play perimeter they will falter but if you go to the net and use the middle of the ice Bruins won't keep up. In other words don't fall into letting them play their game. The third line match up is the one that is key here. Greenway might be a good idea as their third plays greasy.

It's probably internet bs but if true get him out of here. The second sentence most definitely. The mantra should be if you earn it you earn it. When they sent Dunne back I felt they were not living up to the best player earns it idea since he outplayed several people in preseason but they have given him a shot now at least. Has to hold for all players. Be the best and you get your shot. Beat out a guy who is here to stay here.

Lyon backed up by Ellis in Buffalo UPL and Georgiev in Rochester. (If UPL is claimed, all the better, cap money to spend on a top 6 forward added to the other cap money they have)

I'm not waiving Ellis, I'm waiving UPL. Levi? I don't care. If he doesn't want to be here F him. It's time to stop worrying about players feelings and make it just about winning. Well then you just leave him in Rochester. Too bad for him.

Here's the thing for me. It was similar the year we ended up a point behind Florida as well. I think there are positive signs, there are roster improvements, there are a number of good things, but I still think we end up a little on the outside. As such I think this is a moment not to be lost and if you want to build forward it's the time for some bold moves and immediate roster improvements. get just a little bit better and we might just get in like Montreal did last year and then you can really build. If you can move prospects or picks now for roster veterans or disgruntled players like a Chinakov we should do it and do it now. Forget about when Norris might come back and get a top 6 forward now. I really don't want Kevyn in charge but since he is, he needs to make the moves. Don't let this opportunity slip away thinking next year we will be even better. Be better NOW. Unfortunately I think Kev will be conservative and believe too much in his own guys and previous moves and then we will have Tuch issues and other people wanting out, Maybe Levi, maybe more and it can all go back down the dumper real fast. Don't miss the moment!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it's prospects/picks I make this move in a heartbeat. In terms of roster I would not be unhappy moving out Quinn and moving Chinakov in instead.

If it's true. If he wants to be moved, just move him. Solves the the too many goalies issue. This team needs to start acting like a real franchise. Ditch him if he don't like it. He didn't earn it, so it's not his. We keep Ellis that way.

As I said in the Columbus thread, we've been fooled before. This could go either way. There are signs though. Positive signs. More grit. More players who go to the paint. Better efforts blocking shots and cutting off passes. It's trending the right way but there are still some passengers.