PerreaultForever

idk I'm just throwing names around. Disgruntled player for an American born player. Colorado wants to win now so I doubt they'd want prospects. While I do not think anyone on Sabres should be untouchable, for me the primary trade capital is Peterka, Quinn, Norris, Byram, Samuelsson. Arguably some of them might not be considered overly valuable after last season but they are young enough that some teams might see upside as well. Add to that picks and the entire Rochester cupboard except Levi. If you can use any of that in any way to improve this roster do it.

Wasn't he the oldest guy to score a goal like in his 50s? 52 I think.

Corey Perry says he wants to play again next year. I think he might think he can beat Gordie Howe's record.

Trade Norris for Utah's 4th. Then trade our 9th for Necas and the 4th for Robertson. Byram to San Jose for enough capital to get Dobson. Sprinkle whatever fairy dust you need around to make this all happen, Peterka for Cuylle if he still wants out after those moves. Add a tough guy. Ready to go.

You're not getting that for JJP and #9. Norris might interest them though.

Consistent no, but as a back up I think adequate. overpaid in that role but so be it until Levi can take it from him. Depth is important too if we want to be serious about winning

Quite possible but he's a later and I want now. No more waiting and as such no prospect is untouchable for me.

I'm making that deal . imo you want to build a winning team you start with 3 pillars. A franchise goalie, a franchise D man and a top scoring forward. We have the D man 100% in Dahlin, Thompson isn't the best in the league but he can be viewed as a top level scoring forward, and the missing pillar is a star goalie. Oettinger can be that.

Utah is apparently interested in moving their #4 pick for a current top 6 forward. Sabres have options to explore here. Too many to list and although I do not want a subtraction if there was something that would work here that would also open up trading our pick in a Rossi deal or Dobson deal or etc etc . It does seem like there are teams ready to move players and picks around this year. Adams should have some options and opportunities.

If they would want those players. They might not. Definitely don't see that Byram trade happening.

Right, so you can trade Byram for picks to San Jose or somebody else and then trade those picks and/or your own to Dallas for Robertson. Along with whatever else makes it work but that's the crux of how you get deals done. Everybody happy. If Adams tries to get a roster player one for one with Byram it'll be a lot harder to do. Same with Peterka. Would you do Helenius and Wahlberg for Rossi? I would.

Well in fairness Skinner is really just a depth black ace with Edmonton and he wouldn't even see the ice if not for the Hyman injury. Montour's a funny one. Very specific skill set and he needs to be on a highly structured team for real success. We were a loose wide open mess and so he looked seriously flawed here and constantly out of position. He was not great in Seattle that also lacks that Florida structure. I think Dahlin could win a cup in Toronto. He's the piece they are truly missing. Reilly is not the PP QB they need. I'm not suggesting anything just looking at where he'd fit or be needed most among contenders if he insisted on getting out.

That's fair. I'd say those guys are wait 3 years not 5 but I get your point. As I said, I'd make the deal anyway. I'd consider it a winning trade for Dallas but it wouldn't matter as our roster would be better now.

I doubt they'd want to send a D prospect back given their D situation. I'd take picks back from them and then use that draft capital in further deals like Robertson or Dobson or whoever. Adams has to stop the foolishness of looking for "hockey trades". You trade your player for picks to one team and then you swap picks for a player to another team. Ta-da "hockey trade" net result.

Yes I said that because of the "throw Byram in". I think Peterka, 9 and Östlund is rich and marginally too much but I'd still do it. I have no interest in them "winning trades". I want them to add roster players. It's the 9th overall that gives me pause. I'd certainly do Peterka, Östlund and a 2nd (throw in Rosen if you want as I think he's a bust anyway). Or 2 seconds. If that 9th pick becomes Martin or Bear it feels less appealing.

If Edmonton wins and Skinner gets a cup that means the big line that was supposed to launch us forward (and did have a 10 game winning streak where we all got excited) will have sequentially (in terms of decreasing talent) won the cup. Eichel-Reinhart-Skinner. I guess you'd argue that we've always had top talent, we just can't build a proper roster around it.

Way too much. Regarding Byrum, San Jose are apparently desperate for a top pairing D man and are trying to entice the islanders to swap picks. I'd dangle Byram in front of them as a possible plan B for them. For what idk. Not that familiar with who or what they have.

This is the crux of the whole thing and it simply validates what we've speculated on for years. This ultimately started when Pat LaFontaine realized it and said this won't work for me and walked out the door. It's been a clown show with ringmaster TP in charge ever since. So the question now is will JK make a difference? Has the owner realized he needs senior advice after all? Will JK stick to his guns and go up against a TP idea or will he just be happy to get a payday and climb in the clown car as another yes man. I thought Ruff would refuse to get in the clown car by demanding his own assistants but when they ran all that back and even promoted Appert I thought Lindy's just glad to have another job. No serious boat rocking here. idk, if you want to be optimistic you assume JK will change things and it'll finally change, but the pessimist in me just says it's a fan placating window dressing move to give false hope (and sell tickets) and it'll still be the TP clown show. No idea which way it will go at all. Hope and pray.

I don't see the urgency in getting rid of UPL. If we got Demko he starts, Levi can battle UPL for the back up job and if he earns it definitively then you can look at it but otherwise you start Levi in Rochester and let it play out the way these things play out on other teams. Rookies EARNING jobs, not being given them.

Cap finagling isn't the problem some people keep thinking it is. You can move bodies out if you are a creative GM. It's done constantly around the league.

Demko might be very available given how good Silovs has been in the Abbotsford Canucks playoff run. He's no longer waiver exempt and so Canucks might decide to move Demko and keep him.

Hagens as well. That's probably it though. Misa separated himself from the pack so he gets 2 and then after that likely Martone and then ??? Which one ahead of which is uncertain to say the least.

Now, can he get us an Olivier for a 4th round pick?

Highly possible. He definitely won't fall to the Sabres. Chicago is definitely a possibility and would make sense. My point was only that years later he might end up being better than most of these centers everybody is talking about and arguing over. He seems to get less press/attention.

That is true. Later in the season Savoie kept dropping. I can't remember if his play trailed off or what the reason was but it seemed people were losing interest. Hagens is a bit like that this year. Misa went way up but Hagens had been top 2 or 3 and is now a question mark around 6 or even lower. Desnoyers kept rising with his playoff performances but now after his last bit people souring again. Very few players are seen as can't miss this year. I think Philly got all those picks in the wrong year. I normally would never trade a top 10 first rounder but in the Sabres case, if there is a great deal out there this might be the year to do it. Whoever they take will be a question mark if they do pick. You know the guy I am now intrigued with is Martone. Others have gone up and down the rankings but he's quietly stayed there around 4. Nobody talking about him much other than "big" as a description and everybody obsessed with centers but what he turns into will be interesting to see.