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Peterka wanted out. Given that fact pretty much any return is a +, not sure how we can construe it any other way. In that sense the return is found money. when you are trying to recover from the chasm a guy like Botterill left us in, it takes time. Can’t remember who the poster was but someone mentioned when you look at teams like Florida etc it can sometimes take even as long as 10 years or so to rebuild that and get yourself out of that hole. Some players like Peterka who don’t have the maturity to wait are going to be to the casualty
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Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft
Thorny replied to dudacek's topic in The Aud Club
Peterka’s metrix -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
It’s funny cause at first most people said “well it depends on Byram return, there’s another part to this” but now word is that market is weak - thankfully as the poll illustrates the move is a home run even without the follow up - with a strong Byram trade for at least a bottom 6 forward I think we can already mark offseason down as an “A” and we haven’t even reached the draft yet…Adams’ forte 🙂 -
Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft
Thorny replied to dudacek's topic in The Aud Club
I forgot, Peterka‘S metrics mean he is bad, Byram’s don’t. Sabrespace -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
In the running for most positive initial reactions to a sabres trade I’ve seen, overwhelmingly positive at nearly 2-1. Say what you want about Adams but the more time goes by the more his work is being greeted with praise -
Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft
Thorny replied to dudacek's topic in The Aud Club
You would be fine that we extended a poor player after we said we could afford to trade Peterka cause the Byram trade will supplement the offence Welcome, 1C Jash Norris -
Chad D: expect a Byram trade at or around the draft
Thorny replied to dudacek's topic in The Aud Club
Lmao Just lmao -
Someone else said it finally lol I can’t decide whether it’s more embarrassing or just hilarious. Like ordinarily I’d say embarrassing but like…the turn on him in real time is so shockingly brazen and barren and obvious it’s like..damn. I couldn’t even make my meme work when I said “within 24 hours we’ll love the deal” Nope - Peterka is a bad apple within LESS than 24 hours. No attempt to hide it.
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Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
That non-certainty of it is a good take I hate the deal and I haven’t once said it can’t work or that these players won’t be good. It’s, for me, simply the principle. I know the deal was limited by $ concerns, I know the priority when making the deal wasn’t fully “winning”. The sabres being bad for this long don’t owe us winning. But they owe us doing their best to maximize winning, when they do or don’t make transactions. It’s as simple as that, for me. My stance is the sabres crest and their fans deserve a no stone unturned approach - I believe expecting nothing less on each and every move is very reasonable -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
I suppose I’d understand the distinction more if a trade was strictly necessary - was just struggling with the idea the option of making the deal could be construed as good when the option to keep what we’ve deemed as better remains viable I do think there’s some trickiness in the poll options as they aren’t equal from centre - “hate” is further one way than “good” -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
But then don’t trade him - you reiterated multiple times leading up to today “we simply don’t have to trade him”. And then said you would not do it for less than Robertson so we did it for less than Robertson, and we didn’t have to do it - those are your stated suppositions. We did the trade for less than you said you’d be willing to, but are saying it’s a good trade when you specifically said it’s less value than you’d be willing to do the trade for Correct? You would have said no to the deal, but you like the deal for our team cause, it’s not “well I want more but I do like it” - at least I don’t see how a deal you’ve stated you wouldn’t make falls under the category of a trade you like when there’s no requirement to make the deal -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
So true. When you put it that way- I was just too stupid to get it. These guys are always one step ahead, admittedly -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
You told me you’d redo it if given the option no more than a couple hours ago haha So you’d redo the trade, wipe it from the record, but consider it, right now, a trade you like. Do I have that right? -
Do You Like The JJP for Kesselring/Doan Trade RIGHT NOW?
Thorny replied to bob_sauve28's topic in The Aud Club
If you ran this poll yesterday afternoon and asked if you’d be ok with that return how do we think the poll results read differently right now? be honest Consensus good deal? Like the poll says right now? Right now the poll shows overwhelming win for Adams. -
It’s true. The more time passes the more the sabres are always revealed to have been in the right. They just have to calm down and analyze what actually happened. The results always speak well - most of the time the fans are just too stupid to realize our GM *has* assembled another team capable of amounting to 78 points and there’s nothing to worry about
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Like I get I am exaggerating in that plenty were questioning it, but a TON liked it and a lot of those people REALLY liked it. I hate this weird default that all the fans that are unhappy with the team are disingenuous losers who are just pretending to be mad for clout. Why would I/we praise the Savoie trade then? We weren’t hesitant to praise Adams when we THOUGHT he was doing something in the name of winning - why does the argument exist we’d be unhappy still if we actually did win? It’s nonsensical and I just proved it He and others just want to see the fans as an irrationally angry monolith that has no right to be angry cause they couldn’t do better (than professionals) anyway and they are just lying about wanting the base minimum success, and complain just to complain, who complain just because “it makes sense to assume the worst with the sabres” as I SO often see mentioned here by a lot of people no - we aren’t assuming the worst, the transactions and practices have certain patterns we pick up on a pick for player broke trend - praise if we don’t trade Byram for an underutilized shoot first forward with upside I’ll be happy