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Then I’d delete my post.

Compared to 4 Nations this will be a let down entertainment wise.

Because if you don’t end every post with nazi or fascist then by default you are endorsing Trump 😂

His bio does not reflect any of those assignments. The previous guy was the Air Force Chief of Staff.

Ok.

Wow. I’m the first one to provide background on a personality involved but that still wasn’t enough for you. So weird. Here’s the guy who got nominated. https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/2942633/john-d-caine/#:~:text=As a command pilot%2C he,a serial entrepreneur and investor.&text=1999 Air Force Weapons School,Nellis Air Force Base%2C Nev.

I dunno. What’s the other guy’s record?

The last four CJCS assumed their positions on either 30 September or 1 October. Guessing it has to do with a fiscal year thing. Here’s a little background on the guy Trump nominated. F-16 Fighter Pilot. Special Operations Experience. CIA Associate Director for Military Affairs. As for why, no reason has been provided yet. Operationally that background in SpecOps and CIA might have something to do with it. Apparently during Trumps first term he had a more aggressive response towards dealing with ISIS which Trump liked.

Marchand and Kreider are shells of what they used to be.

How crazy would that be?

Yeah. What could’ve been.

Yes

He’s really upped his defensive game in recent years. If I could get over his personality I would like him. For now though, he’s an American and I hope he wrecks Canada.

From a 2021 Government Accountability Office Report: ”According to data obtained from DOD, Japan provided $12.6 billion and South Korea provided $5.8 billion from 2016 through 2019 in cash payments and in-kind financial support. This direct financial support paid for certain costs, such as labor, construction, and utilities. In addition to direct financial support, Japan and South Korea provided indirect support, such as forgone rents on land and facilities used by U.S. forces, as well as waived taxes, according to DOD officials.” https://www.gao.gov/product These bases exist as a deterrent against NK and Chinese aggression and provide for the defense of those nations. Both NK and China are aggressors in the Pacific and Russia in Europe. NK with threats to the U.S. and its allies, pursuit of nuclear capabilities, and intermittent rocket launches. The U.S. is still in a state of war with NK. China continues to harass civilian vessels and claiming territory beyond the nine dash line. They present an ongoing concern of military invasion into Taiwan. The U.S. receiving forms of compensation for supporting the defense of other nations is not a new thing. According to Zelenskyy the U.S. has provided $100 Billion in aid. Compensation on the back end would neither be a reparation or penalty. I guarantee if Biden brokered a deal for Ukraine to compensate the U.S. post war, leftists would praise his efforts as a way of strengthening economic ties and mutual defense with an ally.

The fact you don’t understand what reparations are but use it to back up an insult is funny 😂 You seem to also lack an understanding that the U.S. maintains economic and diplomatic ties with another adversary, China. If you did you would see that relationships with near peer countries isn’t simping. It’s holding some balance while still maintaining/establishing dominance in politics, economics, and multiple domains of military capabilities. Points get lost on someone who doesn’t have the knowledge and/or experience to understand them. Other posters and I have a large gap in perceptions of geopolitics and there impacts on military application but at least it’s an exchange of relevant information.

Ok so its not a ****** choice of words which means its all good and you agree 😆

It is a ****** choice of words. Weird that you dispute that but ok. I believe you are referring to the Doha Accord unless I am wrong. Not going to disagree with you. I will disagree with the idea it is singlehandedly responsible for the collapse of the Afghan Government. Not saying that is what you are saying but I think it is an idea that exists.

$h!tty choice of words. I’ll give you that. As you disagree with me on the potential for foreign fighters to enter a (potential) future U.S./Russia war, I disagree on Russia invading a NATO member country. Unless Putin is beyond stupid which is a possibility.

I don’t think you understand what reparations are. Reparations are payments made as a result of damage. Leveraging $69 Billion spent supporting another country’s war effort to strike a deal for access to rare earth metals is a trade agreement. It’s funny how you delete the other half of my quoted post to support your claim I support Russia. By your apparent definition the U.S. has been “simping” for China for decades. We maintain diplomatic and economic ties with the country who intends on supplanting the U.S. But I guess leaving that in doesn’t help your false narrative on me. 😂

It’s not the European citizens that would produce an insurgency. Russia maintains strong ties with Iran who is a state sponsor of extremist organizations such Hezbollah and the Muslim Brotherhood. If anyone thinks Russia wouldn’t leverage that when things go south against the west then I believe they’re wrong.

That is 100% incorrect. Once the U.S. puts ground forces in Ukraine foreign fighters will make their way there.

Germany paid the bulk of reparations. Not seeing where you are going with that. If you think my take on the Ukraine war is wrong, try explaining it. BTW, following WWII the west split Germany with Russia/Soviet Union who became our Cold War adversary. Today we maintain trade and diplomatic relations with China who is literally moving to supplant the U.S. as the world's superpower. They are also claiming land that is not theirs (sound familiar), dangerously harassing civilian vessels, and present a threat of invasion to Taiwan.

All I am saying is that there is more to the situation than simply saying Russia needs to get out of Ukraine. The areas where Russia has focused their operations has a bit of pro-Russian populace. If a third country goes in we are introducing a new variable. In Iraq/Afghanistan, foreign fighters from all over flocked into those countries to fight us. The U.S. is a magnet for state and non-state sponsored entities who want to fight. If the war in Ukraine gets to the point where the U.S. has to send in forces, especially on a large scale, I think we end up with an insurgency made up of foreign and Ukranian people. On top of that, Russia would probably mass their forces. Ukranian forces would likely be fighting against their own pro-Russian countrymen. Essentially you have a civil war, insurgency, and increased threat of nuclear war. The preferable option is Russia leaves Ukraine and returns all of the land they took but does anyone think Putin will do that. That DOES NOT mean we bow down to Putin. This country has a proud history of taking the fight to guys like him. If after all else fails, there is no other option then at least we know we tried to resolve this conflict and are using military force as it should be. Keep in mind it would be our children/grandchildren going into the aforementioned. So, if initial talks are not to our liking now that doesn't mean a final agreement will be that.

Nobody is simping for Putin. A deeper understanding of the situation is required to see that.

What do you want Trump to do? Continue funding a losing war and authorizing ATTACMs and similar weapons to be fired into Russia. It’s Ukraine’s land so they should be part of the conversations. I’m not disputing that. The U.S. has given a lot money and arms and they’re still reportedly losing ground. Putin doesn’t look like he will back down and give everything back. I believe what you are saying the conflict should continue and at some point progress into full war with U.S. forces. BYW, Poland is a NATO country and Ukraine is not. If Putin is that dumb then we’ll be having a very different conversation. Until then the idea Russia will invade a NATO country knowing it will result in Article 5 invocation seems like a stretch. But if he is that dumb then he learns FAFO. To answer the question I want Trump to mediate a peace deal that results in Crimea and eastern Ukraine returned to Ukraine. Then, I want Trump to get a deal where the U.S. can make back some of that $68 Billion. I doubt all of that happens.