Ross Rhea

Agreed. Life is all about choices, Boogard chose that career. He didn't have to and nobody forced it on him.

I think this is the most likely answer. One or both will be gone. Darcy has also said he has been in discussions with the teams in front of them about trading up. Hmmm... should be interesting.

omg! :wallbash:

Check the attitude, see I can say it too! You mean that same established guy that has been outperformed the last 2 seasons by his $700k backup. Okey dokey I guess!

Why do people keep saying this? What is this assumption based on? When, in your eyes, is he allowed to have a chance to prove he can do it(he has already proven he ca do it , by the way)?

why is 500 games played now your new threshold? because it fits your argument better? 2 days ago there was no mention of "500 games played".

tied for 10th career sv%. http://www.hockey-reference.com/leaders/save_pct_career.html

And that right there is the difference between an average goalie and an elite goalie. One screw up per game translates into one goal per game and more times than not in the NHL that is the difference between winning and losing and being average or elite.

Agree with you JJ. I think it is pretty unbelievable how some refuse to look at things with an open mind. The bottom line is, the guy making $6+ million per should be light years better than the backup making 700k per year and he is not. Hasn't been for 2 years now and if I had to guess wouldn't be better next year either, but that would TBD.

Fair enough!

Did you feel the same way about Miller at first?

Wrong again, Miller won a training camp battle, won the job then broke his thumb and Biron won, what 13 in a row. Again Miller didn't prove anything on the ice, he won a training camp competition. Why do you think this? What is your reasoning?

Wrong answer! He won a training camp competition, over Biron and Noronen. He didn't prove ###### on the ice in games, like you want Enroth to do. Which he has already done, by the way. Miller is consistently average, if that is what you are talking about. Enroth has still outperformed Miller last year and this.

Really? What did Miller have to prove before he was named starter?

Why keep talking out your backside? What more does the guy have to prove? When given the chance he has outperformed Miller, last year and this year, and you consider Miller elite, right? or at least a great goalie? So how does outperforming the starter make Enroth "not clear starter material"? Geeze!

sample size what? go ahead and check it and tell us what you come up with.

Actually, according to the NHL GAA goalie stats in yahoo, J Halak has the lowest shots against at 286, all the other 35 goalies ranked higher than Ryan have at least 400 shots against. I don't know where you are getting your info from? Of the only 23 goalies that have at least 25 starts, Ryan is 21st in gaa and 13th in sv%. So what that Ryan has a higher work load, it doesn't mean he is succeeding at it. SV% and goalie starts, I get 16 to your 12, but whatever, still don't know where you are getting your stats from.

Well, i'm ready to hear another teams fans whine and complain on how they were fleeced because Miller's GAA and SV% are similar to what they were in Buffalo at only 37th and 20th respectively. There are only 30 teams in the NHL right? He is currently 37th in GAA, so all teams have 1, and 8 teams have 2 goaltenders better than Ryan in GAA. All Star material alright. I think Darcy is going to have a hard time moving him this summer, IMHO. Who would want him? Maybe a contending team needs a backup. The only option might be letting him walk next year after his contract ends.

Isn't it a foregone conclusion that Darcy overpaid for his players? He paid average players better than average money, right? At least that is what alot of people have said. Leino, Connolly, Vanek, Gaustad, Hecht, Stafford, etc, etc. Why isn't Miller thrown into that mix? An average goalie being paid too much. Just because Darcy overpaid an average goalie does not make him elite. Darcy screwed up alot and Miller is right in the middle of all it. Miller like numbers do not command $6.5 million per year. Enroth has had Miller like numbers the past 2 years, and what does he make? $700k. If Miller goes and Enroth is #1 I don't envision him demanding $6.5 million per. Half that maybe, 2 or 3 years down the road.

have some coffee and go searching. 2500 posts, i'm thinking you can search better than you troll or fish! ;)

been answered numerous times in other threads and posts. search is your friend.

Anybody dude, and for a ton cheaper. It's easy to replace mediocrity with mediocrity. If you are not interested in upgrading the position then you are satisfied with mediocrity. I'm not, I want a better goalie. I think there are a couple of them in the organization now, all they need is a chance, kinda like Miller was given a chance.

Been down this road many a time, do you not remember reading numerous posts about better goalies than Miller? I will not ever understand why some think Miller is the be all end all, nobody is better than him, he is irreplaceable, and every excuse ever is always made on why he stinks the place up. Miller is not very good, and it would not be very hard to replace him. This argument is very R Fitzpatrick like. There are a ton of bright young good goalies that are better than Miller, sorry you have tunnel vision and can not see that, and for me, I could only hope that was his last game in the blue and gold. Time to move on from mediocrity, I would like better at that position. Again R Fitzpatrick like argument.

Not very difficult to find a goalie better than Miller, the league is littered with them. Do you watch anybody other than the sabres? If you did you would see that.

Vanek is better than both Pommer and Gaborik imo.