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ICE can claim whatever they want. They did not go through due process therefore ICE is lying. I wouldn't trust ICE if they wished me good morning. I keep wondering when ICE will be sent after Liberals, what will be their crime? They will be labeled un-american and be called "invaders" or some other nonsense.

At this point I feel like we have talked about just about all there is to talk about. We won't know anything until these players start playing games together.

This is fascism https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-deport-us-citizen-kids-stage-4-cancer-honduras-rcna224501

Calling them "riots" is dishonest. Trump will call any protest he dislikes a "riot" and Fox News will scream "RIOT!" into the airwaves nonstop until Maga believes that LA is a post-apocalyptic hellscape. When a president starts using terms like "liberating" in reference to US cities, he's a fascist and a racist. We are sprinting towards full on dictatorship. You can't "liberate" a US city from the ppl who live there even if you dislike those ppl. To clarify, "you" in this case does not mean Hank

You're clearly triggered. I asked a few follow up questions on your position. That's all, there is no "gotcha" coming. I disagree on your take. I don't have big smoking gun though which you implied a few times.

Why are Republicans hell bent on fascism? I asked a simple question. Calling what was happening in LA "riots" is disinformation. Under that pretense, Trump can deploy the US Military anywhere on US soil for anything.

Do you support deploying armed US military personnel for domestic law enforcement operations? Do you support deploying armed US military personnel to put down protests that are in opposition to the POTUS?

Do you support deploying the United States military on US soil?

There's disinformation in here. But just to clarify you support sending in armed US military personnel to deal with domestic law enforcement issues? You support the Potus at any point sending the military to US soil to do... anything the potus orders?

There is a good reason Mittelstadt isn't here and no, I wouldn't trade for him, even draft picks.

He's 2027 draft eligible but don't have that thread yet.

If Benson puts up 45pts this year, that was a good year for him. That would be where I put his point total over under 44.5o/u

You aren't reading. YOU, you, specifically you. I said it 3 times so you get it. Said and I will quote " best case Benson could approach 60pts.... that said, he still wouldn't crack the top 6 on an established playoff team." You set the threshold at 60pts on multiple posts. You then said that isn't a top 6 winger. Either you are not writing what you mean, or you believe that if Zach Benson scored 60pts, he still wouldn't be a top 6 player. Which is it? If you are arguing that Benson is not a top 6 right now, sure by points he might not be. I guess we shall find out this season.

Literally showed this to be wrong. Here, read carefully.

It amazes me how rabid ppl are for fascism these days. They are positively giddy about it as long as it aligns with their politics.

You aren't my friend. You said that a 60pt Benson wouldn't even be a top 6 winger on a playoff team. I proved you wrong, easily. Be better.

I guess we shall see

You don't agree that Zach Benson passing to Dylan Cozens, Jack Quinn, and Peyton Krebs for large chunks of the year impacted his assists? Ok. What's more likely, Benson shoots below average forever, or he had bad shooting luck mixed with not enough skill that can be corrected? Yup.

Let's look at the production of the 4th forward from the 2024 playoff teams in the regular season. I am using forward because teams often switch centers and wings around for chemistry so lets just look at forwards. The criteria is play forward, are the 4th guy on that team in points. Dallas: Hintz, 28g, 67pts Vegas: Stone, 16g, 53pts Vancouver: Garland, 20g, 47pts Nashville: Novak, 18g, 45pts Winnipeg: Perfetti, 19g, 38pts Edmonton: RNH, 18g, 67pts LA: Moore, 31g, 57pts Florida: Verhaeghe 34g, 72pts (interestingly the next forward is at 41pts) Tampa: Haegel 26g, 75pts (and then you drop to 46pts) Boston: Zacha 21g, 59pts Toronto: Tavares, 29g, 65pts New York: Zibanejad, 26g, 72pts Washington: Mantha, 20g, 35pts Carolina: Necas, 24g, 53pts Long Island: Palmieri, 30g, 54pts Without even going with the 6th best forward in terms of points (which could be a teams 2nd line LW) we get an average of 53.7points for the 2023-2024 season. This means that your statement of "I'll say this, if they deploy him on the first line and gets regular PP minutes, he could get close to 60pts.... which would be acceptable on a non-playoff team like Buffalo. That said, you want to be taken seriously as a playoff contender? Do. Better." isnonsense not backed up by anything when I used the best "2nd" line point producers from each team to run this. The 4th best point producing forward on all 16 of the playoffs teams in 2023/2024 averaged below 60pts and only 6 teams managed to have a 4th forward top 60pts. The only logical conclusion is that a top 6 forward who gets 60pts is really good, certainly in the mix to be called a top line forward, and heavily valuable to EVERY playoff team. If Zach Benson puts up 60pts (I doubt he will but idk, crazier things have happened) the Sabres would be sitting pretty. Of course if Buffalo does not get its goals against down, it won't really matter. If we go to the 5th best forward on each team that 53.7 drops considerably. Thought I should note that. Even if I do it for just the two florida teams that see a massive drop at 5th forward, that brings us down to 49.9pts. Do better is great advice, I encourage you to take it.

Zach Benson 5v5 minutes per linemate, he had about 908 total minutes of 5v5 ice time. Jiri Kulich: 286mins (31.5%) Peyton Krebs: 282mins (31.1%) Dylan Cozens: 238mins (26.2%) Tage Thompson: 238mins (26.2%) Jack Quinn: 217mins (23.9%) Ryan McLeod: 149mins (16.4%) Alex Tuch: 103mins (11.3%) Sam Lafferty: 65mins (7.2%) JJ Peterka: 63mins (6.9%) Jason Zucker: 55mins (6.1%) Now the first thing that will happen is someone will be like, "SEE! He played all those minutes with Tage and Kulich and couldn't do anything!" Zach Benson played 152mins with Kulich and Thompson (BOTH). Benson played 908mins of 5v5 roughly, so that means that Zach Benson played on a line with both of the players that he played SOOO much time with, 16.7% of the season (at 5v5). To put this in perspective, JJ Peterka spent 459mins with Tage Thompson last year or about 42.7% of all his 5v5 time. Ryan McLeod spent 223mins with Tuch, or 21.7% of this 5v5 toi. Other line combos with more than 70mins TOI: Benson - Krebs - Quinn: 92mins or 10% Benson - Cozens - Quinn: 70mins or 7.7% Zach Benson spent massive chunks of his time with Krebs (10g), Cozens (11g), Thompson (44g), and Kulich (15g) with some healthy doses of Jack Quinn (19g) in there. You wanna know why Zach Benson didn't have better assist numbers? Because Lindy Ruff, a guy who needs to retire, spent large chunks of the season wasting Zach Benson with guys who can't ***** shoot and moving him alllllllll over the lineup. Finally near the end he put Benson with guys who could shoot. Let's see if lines stay a bit more stable so ppl can develop some chemistry. Truly it amazes me that after spending all that time with Quinn or Cozens, Benson managed to still post good underlying metrics. It is truly a miracle if you think about it.

Y'all are aware that the Sabres scored more goals than both Florida and Edmonton last year correct? Right?

You've literally been disproven, multiple times. Do better.

God, even with Ruff being awful, the team being GMd by Kevyn, and the general malaise of the team, I hope Benson drops 70pts so I can come back to this thread and be like "cool, sure".