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That's why I put him with McLeod and Doan. Quinn likes the offhand side because it is easier to cut into the middle and shoot. With Doan and McLeod, it hides Quinn's defensive issues while giving him a puck carrier in McLeod and a dig it out of the corner in Doan, both of whom are good defenders. I think they want Kulich at center but I could see Krebs getting some time at LW instead of staying on the 4th line since Danforth is here. Greenway to me is almost strictly a 4th line player at this point. He can play PK, and get about 10 other minutes a night on the 4th line while being an adult in the room. I don't need him for more, even if Adams overpaid him. That's my logic at least.

The Sabres would have been better served if Forton was smart enough to draft Ziemer's in the 2nd and 3rd round more often.

Benson - Norris - Tage Zucker - Kulich/McLeod - Tuch Quinn - McLeod - Doan Greenway - Krebs - Danforth Byram - Dahlin Power - Kesselring Samuelsson - Timmins

Zach Benson is already a solid nhl player. Idk why we have to have this conversation repeatedly. Fully agree on the gt issue. Greenway staying healthy doesn't matter. Zucker hopefully does, Norris too, agree there. I worry less about power and Kesselring overall and more that Wilford was retained and Ruff is mediocre.

Do you not understand how elite Benson already is defensively? You don't think the points are going to come when he's getting time with good players and more than Ruffs stupid 14mins a game? Zach Benson is going to explode in terms of production.

Has Adams talked about Timmins playing up the lineup since he stopped actively trying to trade Byram?

I think Jordan Greenway is very mediocre and I wouldn't have given him 2yrs. He's a 4th guy after all the injuries.

I think Doan overtakes Greenway within 2 months.

Kesselring is going to end up with Owen Power. It is almost all Adams has spoken about in regards to that trade, "finding a partner for Power".

Nonsense. Good teams with competent management extend their young good players and figure out the cap issues later. They could have extended JJP and traded Jack Quinn. They could have extended JJP and traded Samuelsson. Lots of ways to get JJP under contract. You write this like there was no possible solution, when there were 100 options. Hell, they could have done NOTHING else but extend JJP and would still be under the cap because you are forgetting the 2.325 that's going to Doan and Kesselring. Adams could have been smart and not signed Greenway to 4million bucks when he's worth half of that. They had the space to sign JJP, they wanted to trade him instead or at the very least he didn't want to sign but it the cap was not a hinderance to it happening. No we aren't. That is included in the Sabres current cap number. They have 5.19 million in cap space left including Skinner's 4.44million. https://puckpedia.com/team/buffalo-sabres

So... he wasn't taken to arbitration then... right! Asking for a friend.

Anyways. Have fun.

This place is such a shitshow these days. Truly the drought has ruined it because there's nothing to talk about. We're gonna have ***** gt with ***** coaching and finish around 83-85pts. Adams will make excuses, Ruff will retire, Appert will be coach (see now I'm making assumptions), and we'll lose again next year. Rinse and repeat. Because the only thing the gm was more afraid of than arbitration was an offer sheet. This isn't hard.

You know what children. You're right, Adams had great processes in place. He's so smart. My bad. See, that's what moving the goalposts looks like. All this bs over a side comment about how funny it all was. Oh cool, didn't know players could just negotiate contracts with themselves. Is that part of the new cba?

When was byrams arbitration hearing? Please tell me. So he literally wasn't taken to arbitration. Thank you.

Funny you think electing arbitration is taking a player to arbitration even though they never went and the player signed before it happened. Reading comprehension, get some.

Bowen Byram did not go to arbitration. Not my fault you don't understand what words mean Promo.

Oh cool, so what did the Arbitration award Byram? When was his arbitration hearing held? Would love to read up on it. You're so full of ***** it hurts.

Go look up what adams said about jbd "I think from our perspective, where his projected salary was going to come out and where we had him slotted in the 8th spot.. just felt like that didn’t make sense with also having Ryan Johnson (and others).. that’s why we made the decision we made.” Kevyn Adams He was literally afraid of being on the hook for an arbitration award higher than he felt while openly admitting he views Bryson higher. Jfc kids, it's bad process and I'm being debated about how bad it is. Wtf are we doing here.

He literally did not. No one went to arbitration.

The gm was afraid of arbitration. We know because of his words and actions. That's hilarious because it's a formality in 19 out of 20 cases.

Now this is goalposts moving. You think the issue is Timmins? No, it's that they let a guy go because "what if he files for arbitration!?" Which was the gms rationale only to sign a guy who immediately filed for arbitration. It's hilarious and bad decision making because as you point out, they all sign anyways.

The gm said they didn't want to do arbitration with JBD and then signed a bad player and allowed another player to file for arbitration b4 signing him. It's not moving the goalposts, it's recognizing incompetent decision making.

Signing Timmins while releasing JBD but keeping Bryson is still incompetent.