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Cycling is becoming quite addicting, it's also wayyyy more expensive than I ever would have guessed. Hopefully I can start shedding some of these pounds I've accumulated over the last few years.

I wasn't being sarcastic in my post, I genuinely meant that things were civil, many months ago things got outta hand, in the heat of the pandemic and I took some time away, it wasn't with you. Since this thing isn't going away anytime soon, how long do we keep many things at a low capacity, certain businesses closed, borders closed, etc. At some point we have to deal with the fact that we have a new thing to deal with and we have to open things up wisely, but they need to move forward.

That's some pretty cool artwork, and I do appreciate riding for fun, I sandwich that somewhere between my training lol. 37 miles Is a lot of pedaling no matter what you're on also, probably a hell of a lot more than most people ?

That may be possible, I do work with nurses that have worked in the NY area during the worst and they certainly paint a grave picture. I don't discount the Tri state area, but I also know that the NY area is a bit of an overall outlier due to the sheer volume and density of people in a small area, there's almost no escaping anything when it hits that area.

This is the problem, this "debate" isn't possible with tangible evidence because it's all really a great unknown, so for right now we will just have to settle with being on separate pages. I don't discount the numbers of things I've seen, and many others I haven't seen when it comes to collateral damage from the Covid lockdown. I'm also not fully bought into the death toll numbers overall, I have personally seen many cases of them being fudged, and on a bigger scale, those add up. I get why, it does get into my gripe of modern medicine, but I digress. I don't think this is a made up disease, but I think the gross overreaction was a bit much and I guess I just ask too much of the leaders in the realm. The public panics easy, it's human nature and expected, maybe my military training is getting the better of me when it comes to dealing with people in a time of panic, remaining calm is a virtue that not many posses, under fire. Anyways, I'm more than happy to keep chatting on this , I'm honestly just happy things can be a bit more civil and more constructive, even if we don't fully agree ?

Flyers went into turtle mode and still dominated

I don't have much scientific backup when it comes to the vaccination, at least not when it comes to this specific virus; I'll have to do a little research on that. I just simply don't trust a vaccination that is being rushed fairly quickly, and it's also being touted as this holy grail among most of the general public as well. I'm ok with them studying and making one, I just don't think that a vaccination is going to be as big of an answer as we hope. Hell, I'm more than ready to get back to some normalcy, so I hope it proves me wrong.

I'm not so sure either, the whole point was to slow this down initially, and we have "kind of" done that. Flatten the curve, whatever you want to call it. Without a true herd immunity this virus will continue, and the people that will have fallout from it will still eventually get it, instead of all at once, just prolonged. I don't have much faith In a real treatment anytime soon and a vaccine will be Meh at best, especially initially. There is a ton of Grey in this whole thing, I just have a gut feel that the long term fallout from this will rear its ugly head in a few years, mental health, economic, etc etc, things we can't tangibly put numbers to, and those things are being dismissed at the current time, incorrectly so.

A virtual visit sometimes simply isn't enough. Since this began and all these drastic measures have been put into place, I have seen a significant increase in mental health issues, visits, inpatient admissions and overall increase in severity and number, many of them stem from economic fallout, and Covid related measures. I also see elderly patients in the home and have for several years now, I have seen a dramatic shift in health negative wise from the pure isolationism that they have to endure. As a matter of fact the daughter of a client of mine told me Covid killed her mother, she said not the disease itself, but the loneliness from no one seeing her killed her, very sad convo I had a couple of months ago. With the cancelled surgeries, many patients did not get proper care and their health conditions progressed; that diabetic foot ulcer they put off turned into necrotizing fasciitis and the patient went septic, lost an appendage or life. Many nursing facilities are now now letting patients back without a negative Covid test which takes several day, in the meantime there elderly patients are in a hospital where they are at severe risk of almost any infection, besides the risk of Covid. Furthermore, we have a very very sick population in the southern tier, the ERs basically dried up from fear, the census daily went from over 100 to 20, maybe even less, it's not like magic came and cured all these chronically ill patients, they were too afraid of Covid to seek treatment for anything else. The list goes on and on, and I'm simply reporting things I've personally seen in a tiny hospital in the middle of nowhere, I feel it's safe to assume that these things and more are occurring all across the country as well, and in greater numbers. It always seems so simple from the other side, but this whole thing goes much much deeper than a news story, metrics on a chart, and etc.

You know that this gets the testosterone flowing, makes for a very Woody, Woody....

The 2nd leg of my Ironman preview workouts up in placid, I tackled the bike loop, 3100 feet of elevation and I was stoked about my split!

I'll try and explain my thoughts a little later, I'm trying to meet most halfway, compared to my stance in April. I'm out in Lake Placid right now and don't have much service.

What if that person was coming to the hospital for a psych consult and happened to have one of the other million bugs that still exist and can cause a fever.... That person ends up not getting the help they need and another life is lost due to Covid but not Covid. I have seen sooooo many cases of Covid killing people that never had the virus, the steps we have arbitrarily taken that don't make much sense have cause a significant fallout in other areas that are not being reported. Some steps I'm fine with, some make sense, others are nothing more than a feel good load of mularky.

Not arguing for replacing by any means, I simply think it's just fluff. A lot of the steps were taking are nothing more than fluff. If they help people sleep better at night then wonderful.

Up in Lake placid, did the 1.2 mile swim in Mirror lake, bit of a slow finish, but still not bad overall.

I was told I had a 92 degree temp when I had to "check in" to work one day and it was like "oh, you're under 98.6, you're all clear" The accuracy of temporal/infrared Temps is very very user dependant and very inaccurate as well. If you have a fever, you'd be flush, sweaty, etc, but basic physical appearance and physical exams are apparently a thing of the past.

I'm guessing he was after your 2nd wife...

We can make it a 3 way..... ??

Cmon NS, come down and train with me ? There are some intense and insane athletes, def not the way I'll ever be wired, it's certainly impressive to see, but man!!! I had bike splits of 5 miles yesterday of 16 min or so and I was still being passed easily!

I was happy to see hockey the other night, but when I watched it, I wasn't all that excited, I can't put my finger on it, but it just didn't feel like playoff hockey to me.

I just finished my first ever Triathalon yesterday, it was a sprint Triathalon, so pretty short overall. What a unique experience, very intimidating also. I finished in 1:17 so fairly middle of the pack which is fine with me, I did beat my buddy by 13 minutes, so he owes me a calzone and a beer ?? It's funny, yesterday there were so many people in 10k dollar bikes that I passed and at the end a guy on a 300$ diamondback passed me lol.

I'm probably out this year, not focusing much on sports so much these days

Venice was cool for a day or 2, but it didn't quite do it for me the way I thought it would. I found the Almafi coast overall to be much more spectacular

Ah yes the ring of Kerry and the wild Atlantic way were amazing!