waldo

there are few things better in life than watching the Rangers lose...

You would have turned down the 50 mil for the 20 mil on the table to play with the Sabres? lol What would your wife say. Elite centers was a reach..lol although goal wise for those who have played 7-8 seasons he is comparable ..Vanek is not an elite player but he is one of the best lw in the business , has 100 pt potential on a top ten team and will be good for the next five years or so. We do not have to worry about him losing his speed to age.lol

good point I would just include wingers in a fair list . If .. you wanted to really get some objective context ..left wingers only the fans have no idea how good the guy is given his limitations and they do not seem to understand that he put those numbers up while playing on an average one line team . Its not like Crosby was his center for eight years.. although POM was a very, very, good RW It will be years before they see a Sabre put up those numbers again over eight seasons..if we lose him.. he makes everybody he plays with better...look at Roy stats with Vanek.. then without.. Cody stats with/without...Ennis, Pom....and on and on.

lol +1

That's what bothers me.. Myers has the puck clean in his zone and rather than clear it to fight another day he skates with it until the check closes on him... this is a two year thing.

In NJ they do not permit the use of brown in spray tan applications

who was on the ice for the Sabres ..Zubrus ..sounds familiar....good skill guy, big with grit..

could be tough to do

they are fun...add the right 4-5 skill guys and they are more than that.

embellishment..lol

that line gives up yet another three foot chance on miller and then goes down the ice and actually scores. Savor it.. it does not happen that often lol

Scott...is a man breaking up a heavy forecheck 101

the vaunted sabers pp/// talk about overdue...maybe a pong goal

the box done got busted..

Tyler Myers , Cody pk line. The death wish line...lol

embellishment

interesting change NJ just made on the forcheck

coaching....

thanks for the stats....Yet the fans here crap all over him .he is lazy, not a leader, injured too often etc etc. ..#7 playing without a center, on a average team with one scoring line in most years, always playing against the opposing teams shutdown line. With just little ole POM ( a great player) and the much maligned Derrick Roy and Hecht.. (lol) I wonder what his goal totals would have looked like had he played as a winger with Crosby or Malkin for the past eight seasons...That's the sin in it all. You have players like Miller, Pom and Vanek and you do not give them what they nee to maximize their potential. who were the top ten wingers?

You like quantum leaps huh!.. read more slowly. "Production range". The three have different skill levels and skill sets. They play different games but their games are similar in the degree of physical abuse they absorb imo (although I think Vanek has taken more abuse because of his net presence on the pp over seven seasons) . They are all in the same production range. Maybe you can tell me how many goals Malkin , Crosby and Vanek have scored over their NHl careers, include assists if you with but that would be a little unfair because you would be comparing a wingers assists to a center. Total games played, goals scored , assists, may work.. Do you think you will find a huge differential? Then you can tell me which of the three have played with the most talented line mates and on better teams over that period if you wish.. (I think they have all played between 7-8 NHL seasons if memory serves me?) Malkin and Crosby probably have fewer games played due to injury but there is not enough of a game differential to neuter my point. Vanek has been a far better player over the last eight seasons than most fans here realize . Maybe a list of active players that have put up more than 250 goals in the last 7 1/2 seasons could be interesting too.

" Oft- Injured" Vanek...is this hypothesis or a fact. If a fact please put some stats to support the statement or, perhaps it is just another fan generated opinion or hypothesis. As a fan I wonder how Vanek's injury record compares to the NHL average for other players in his salary and production ranges who take similar levels of abuse. Over the past 6-8 seasons, has Vanek missed more or less games than a Malkin, Crosby, meaning guys who put up 240 plus goals over a five to eight year period.

With their d he brings them the cup. Cap room ?????

Have to ask a simple question which supports your perspective... If Miller was actually in play for the 8, wouldn't Miller and his agent know about it? Miller has how many years left on his contract? One could assume the Caps would want to know if they could negotiate a new contract with Miller before they put 8 on the table? If Miller was in play he would know, Darcy would have to put his agent in the deal to make it go and given Millers personality we would know.. It never happened.imo

Miller sitting behind a good d would have awesome numbers. Could you see him in Chicago or NJ...wow

How much do you think a one year rental is worth in the trade market ? Especially if his agent has no interest in extending his contract with the team he is traded to. Would you put Bernier on the table in that situation and/or a couple of first round picks? Do you think teams that want to trade for a player like Vanek would probe first to see if they could resign him to a longer term contract before they decided what kind of weight to place on the table?