nfreeman

I think discussion of methods is fine, unless it's used as a vehicle to make political jabs. E.g. "full lockdowns work -- here's data from country X supporting that approach" is fine, but "the president/governor/prime minister is an idiot for not supporting lockdowns" is not OK.

Well, Sweden has a much lower per capita Covid death rate than Belgium, Spain, France, Italy and the UK, both cumulatively and in the last 14 days. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1111779/coronavirus-death-rate-europe-by-country/ https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea So, regardless of how sure one is in one's position, there is plenty of data to support a different view. I'll also note that I wasn't even advocating for the Swedish approach vs the UK approach -- just pointing out that "the science" isn't "settled."

It would be pretty cool if he just seized a spot in camp and was clearly too good to be sent down, innit?

Please remove panties from wringer. I didn't mention those items, and I'm not referring to "political influences". I'm referring to lockdowns, school closures, how to weigh consequences, including health consequences, like depression, substance abuse, alcoholism, delay or loss of other needed health care, economic loss, job loss, family breakups, etc, against the virus' immediate health consequences, whether approaches like Sweden's are better than approaches like the UK's, and other important issues relating to handling the virus. None of these has been settled by anything remotely resembling an "overwhelming consensus."

Well, I think it's important to remember that even among experts -- doctors, epidemiologists, and other scientists -- there is a pretty wide range of opinion as to how best to handle the virus.

Good stuff. Tampa drafted a guy named Vermin in 2013.

The 50/50 split is kinda what I was driving at — ie I have been thinking for a while that the increased escrow and flat cap for the next couple of years aren’t going to be nearly enough to preserve the 50/50 split. If I’m wrong about that and the players just have to defer more cash (instead of, say, taking an across-the-board 30% pay cut), that is a good outcome for the players IMHO.

If the only additional concession that the players need to make is the deferral, that is a big win for them.

Well, a 20-goal scorer isn’t an epic bust. A guy who was hyped as the top prospect in the NHL a few years ago but now might wash out entirely (rhymes with “griddle fat”) — now that’s an epic bust.

So at my daughter's urging, we've incorporated a couple of vegetarian dishes into our home rotation during the quarantine: vegetarian lasagna, which we had last night, and vegetarian tacos. I'm pretty happy with both of them -- in fact, I prefer the vegetarian lasagne to meat lasagne, as I no longer feel like I have 20 pounds of food in my gut after dinner. Lasagne: onions, carrots, peppers, squash, mushrooms, spinach, tomatoes, ricotta, mozarella, parmesan. Tacos: onions, peppers, black beans, scrambled eggs, shredded cheese. Recommended for anyone so inclined.

Unbelievable. I keep coming back to scoring: it really seems like to beat a good team this year, you need to score in the mid-30s. JA played lousy for a good chunk of the game, including most of the 2nd half (although the last TD drive was awesome, and what a great catch by Diggs in the end zone for the apparent win), and they just didn't put up enough points to insulate themselves from a freak occurrence.

I think there is no chance the Sabres would trade Cozens for Kane.

Should we pass a board rule against that website? It seems like pure crapola.

I regretfully agree with almost all of this, but please keep the political jabs off the main board.

From the Athletic today: https://theathletic.com/2196438/2020/11/13/planning-nhls-to-return-continues-as-sense-of-urgency-builds-on-both-sides/

Survey of NHL agents in the Athletic today: https://theathletic.com/2194871/2020/11/13/nhl-agent-survey-21-reps-talk-star-trades-bubble-standouts-offseason-winners/ Ugh.

I can explain it: you need a new battery. The apple store will do it for a price that is high enough to make you seriously consider just buying a new ipad.

I would be surprised if the Sabres traded Reino for Hanifan as the primary asset coming back. Montour, Miller or Risto makes much more sense.

But it does cost the players money if revenues fall, because lower revenues result in the players receiving lower payments from the escrow account (which gets 20% of their salaries this year) after the end of the season.

It should go without saying, but political opinions go in the politics club, please.

Both sides -- not just the players -- make more money the more games they play. Since the owners and the players split total revenue 50/50, if more games means more revenue (which is almost certainly the case), then the pie that is split 50/50 is bigger if more games are played, so each side gets more. I may be misinterpreting your post, but you seem to assume that the players' salaries will be prorated if they play fewer games. The NY Post article quoted upthread indicates that this is not the case, although it also says the owners might push for proration.

But revenues are split 50/50, so it's about reducing the hit to everyone.

That was a pretty informative article -- thanks. Some snippets:

So, the most recent word from the NHL is that they are targeting a Jan. 1 start date, but there has been no formal announcement. Lots of possibilities have been floated, including hub cities, divisional realignments, etc., starting the season with no fans in the buildings, delaying the season until fans can attend, etc. It seems like the matter is far from settled. If Jan. 1 is indeed going to be the start date, presumably training camp would need to start around Dec. 10, i.e. less than 1 month from today. I think the decision will ultimately be driven by whether there is money to be made by starting Jan. 1, and how much the spread is between a Jan 1 start and, say, a Feb. 15 start. For the NBA, there is a huge amount of money to be made by starting earlier, which is why they are starting before Xmas without fans in attendance. The NHL makes much less from its TV contracts than the NBA does, though, so the financial calculations will be different. Since the Sabres haven't played a game in 8 months and counting, and since every off-season I convince myself that the Sabres are going to be good again, I'm raring to go and am hoping that we'll have a GDT on Jan. 1 in which every Eichel-Hall shift is broken down to a microscopic level. Discuss.

That was a great freaking win. If they stay healthy and JA plays like that, they can beat anyone.