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It doesn't. And let's not forget there are plenty of guys on every team who aren't liked but are respected bc they work hard or contribute a ton. It doesnt seem like Cody has had any of that in Van or Buf. Not surprising when you have a guy like hodgson who doesn't bust it every shift and shirks playing defence. I don't want a guy like him eating minutes from a younger player anyway. I dont' think this team needs players like Hodgson going forward when you are building a core around Zem and Eichel -- guys notorious for being gym hounds and skating every shift.

He wasn't like it Van, I believe I found some reports on that and had posted in the other Hodgson thread. It was also referenced by Hamilton on GR several times and most recently by Coller in his writeup. As for fitness, also in Coller article Stamkos credits him for his 60 goal season. He can elevate a player's game to the next level if they want to follow his regimen

A hate crime is pretty simple actually, and it carries stiffer penalties bc society has determined that committing a crime based on certain things raises to the level of being a d**k. if you rob a gay person its not a hate crime, if you assault him and kick the ____ out of him bc he's gay, you are doing it because you are someone who shouldn't be out in society. why would it be bogus? I'll use the Civ Rights Act of 64 for example. a large group of people, mainly AA's were being denied rights and equal treatment, and many vehemently opposed the legislation for the same reasons you posit. It's bogus and we are only giving preferential treatment to a certain segment etc etc. Do you think that law was bogus because it rectified a long entrenched racial bias/problem ? If i understand you correctly, in the pool scenario you are saying to just follow the law as is, but that's precisely the problem, the current ways of enforcing and interpreting the law permit this type of conscious or unconscious police bias. Why would you want that to continue? IF creating a policy or law to help a group that has been systematically kept down alienates a person, it's that type of thinking that allows these types of situations to exist for decades. Its like "well we know this group is getting the shaft, but if we do something to help them, this group that's been wielding power will feel bad, so we just have to keep letting get the shaft."

I don't think Cody is a victim of circumstances at all. He wore out his welcome in Van and he' done so here. A guy who doesn't look like he's competing on the ice and isn't well liked in the room and came into camp out of shape? its a recipe for being removed from the team. Why keep a guy like that around? As someone else stated, we already have a guy who isn't a great skater taking up a center spot next year. Get out from this horrible contract and move on.

That would be similar to saying ... we don't need a Civil Rights Act, just treat them the same, which is exactly what Southern whites were saying in opposition. Thats essentially what the crux of the issue is, the laws are NOT being applied the same to different categories of people. You cannot have a solution that's just "try to treat them the same" when there are mountains of evidence saying that line of thinking does not work. And it has never ever worked in the past, hence why rules, regulation and laws are created to deal with diff scenarios.

Las Vegas equal Glen-freakin-dale. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-in-las-vegas-season-ticket-drive-passes-8-000-mark--short-of-goal-170616423.html

Don't think it hurts either. Zad can't go to Rochester b/c he will prob leave to go to KHL. A little surprised to hear that re Reinhart. Not surprised about Grigorenko, he doesn't seem like a Murray guy and hasn't shown enough to warrant the same level of "protected status" in the organization as say Zad

I would suggest the converse is what is happening as well. In almost every one of these situations the cops are simply saying race had nothing to do with it but I feared for my life..... Sorry to say multiple studies over multiple years show an arrest/shooting bias towards AA's and an implicit incarceration bias for crimes actually committed. It's actually not crying wolf, it's a nationwide issue that needs to be addressed.

They aren't. There is absolutely nothing to support that notion.

No, thats not true. targeting a racial category is a racial bias, even in your scenario. That's the whole friggin point, it's that poor blacks get targeted by police more, when there is no data to suggest they are more liekly to commit violent crime. They are OVER represented in police related incidences. It is a fact that no matter what race you are, you are more likely to view a black person as a threat when all other things are equal. http://www.psychologicalscience.org/pdf/ps/racialbias.pdf

The focus on one side has been bc of the outcomes....... one side has all of the power, the other does not. One has a long history of abusing the other and now with cameras everywhere and more on camera deaths, people are starting to look at the police differently. They no longer have that aura that whatever they did was right, bc it was not real to begin with, and the videos are bearing that out. Both sides share some of the blame for the tension, but one should be careful to conflate them as equal or near to it. The FBI stats show that blacks are killed by police more than 30x more than whites, yet whites commit much more violent crime. That's why many say and think it's a race issue, there are even studies done of police that show an inherent race bias in determining a suspect guilty when approaching. (admittedly, stats in this area mushy partly because R's always block legislation to track this sort of thing, instead we rely on the honor system of reporting)

Yes exactly, and they have been supplied with tons of military gear and are often trained in military style tactics for what was once routine police work. There's also a long entrenched cultural norm wherein you can't criticize or critique policing without it being an all out assault on all police. It's like they are a protected and special class and not a civilian force. Besides, drawing your weapon and/or shooting someone is an almost un-prosecute-able offense. There are policies in place that allow police officers to talk to their attorneys before being required to give a statement for something that happened on the job. They are almost always instructed to say they felt threatened and deadly force was required, even when it was not. Just like the guy who was recently indicted for shooting an unarmed guy in the back 30ft away and then planting the weapon on him. He said he felt threatened, if there was no video that case is closed. There are bad police just like there are bad ____ (insert any profession) but police have powers that most don't and should be held to a higher standard as such.

Ok try this... skate forward, get up to medium speed, then using only your left foot (pick up your right) turn left on the ice. the more comfortbale you get... go a little faster, you'll start to lean out over your edge as you build confidence on your edges. if you don't feel strong enough yet, do some home exercises, do air squats with your skates on, blade guards too : ) dont need to lace them too tight. Start building leg and core strength.

Those are great too, will build your ankles some but will really firm up all of your leg and core stability muscles. Yea but i've found inline hockey skates, at least Missions, to be a lower cut which helps the ankles, that plus your ankles get help from a wider base, wheels vs thin blade, lets you ease into building ankles instead of just suffering on the ice. The best advice I have is to go out and skate as much as possible, do open hockey and push yourself, work on your crossovers, C cuts going backwards, and making sure your weight is over your feet when striding. I have a few guys on one of my teams who despite years of playing never get better because they are too afriad to fall down, and they remain bad skaters. Test yourself, push your limits. Another thing I notice with beginners is that their skates are either too soft and buckle or they have them laced up or taped too tight too high so they have ski boots on, you'll never build your ankles or learn the proper technique in either of those situations. you need to have some forward flex but also lateral support, squeeze the top of your skates together, if you can do it easily, get rid of them. Here's a link to what your strides should look like, notice the weight shifting and power stance... I'd be happy to answer any other questions anyone has

True, not much else you can do. Varies quite a bit. Sometimes some poor attendence but usually mostly beginners and a few old timers. buy pair of inline hockey skates and skate as much as possible, while it won't build ankle strength as quick as ice, it will help speed things along. Also it will help you know what your stride should feel like on crossovers bc it will provide a little more stability.

Yea its a good read. Bylsma does change his system. It's really only bloggers and msg board posters who think that he doesn't.

I'm not necessarily advocating for him, just that the CW criticisms of him don't really hold water so to speak, he has pros and cons. I do think this team needs a veteran presence behind the bench so the kids learn from someone who has done it before (or a former NHL player) A coach's street cred in the room is a huge factor, since hockey is an effort sport. I see what you are saying tho, that was the system he saw best at that point in time with the rosters he was given, I think his system was better fitted for less skilled Dmen that were on the Pitt roster. Have you worst players get the puck to Crosby and Malkin asap. Buffalo is going to have a roster that is a little more balances and I think he could emphasize Dmen skating a little more. These are the types of things that happen in an interview. What kind of system and philosophies do you anticipate running? How you do feel about giving mins to young players? aggressive vs D oriented game planning? It's most similar to a NFL qb, in college he knew how to make simple reads, run and throw exceptionally well, now he's asked to do that 100x faster and make more reads..... too much thinking

See this blog post is the type of stuff I just don't think adds a lot of insight to the type of person craving more hockey. It's lazy analysis from a blogger who doesn't really understand what he's hearing or seeing. His system is hard so think lindy Ruff two on ones?? (not exactly but...) No kidding when almost any breakout .... breaks down.. you get odd man chances. Why doesn't the blogger say why it's hard.... and quote someone other than another blogger on that questionable site. really it's bc there are lots of snap judgments and emphasis on getting the puck up ice.

Ha well played, but he's been around the game and I bet if you get him off to the side he can digest it pretty well. But there's an exception to every rule. I think part of the Pens fans issue is that they have Malkin and Crosby and prob feel they should be in the Cup Finals every years.... it's easiest to blame the coach.

Yea i think they were pretty similar, but to be fair i don't recall as many games from 10 years ago for a mental comparison right now. I recall lindy has his wingers stay "home" a little more and that the D2 had more leeway to skate up.

Agreed. I wasn't trying to say all posters suck or anything like that. But how would one know just reading through random posts. I would postulate that 99% of Pens posters didn't know that his d zone puck retrievals were something of an oddity and were eventually copied around the league. His traditional system had the 1D go get the puck and the 2D be close by for an immediate pass. Normal retrievals have 1D get the puck and 2D skate behind the net or near the far circle for an outlet safety pass. Part of Bylsma's philosphy is to get the puck out of the zone asap so the big horses can skate with it. I agree as well, you dont accomplish those things by having one rigid system that you refuse to change at all costs. I thought he really blew it in the Olympics not bc of X's and O's as much as giving Orpik way too much ice against top lines on the big ice. He just trusted him too much.

Nope not my knowledge of Bylsma, but the game sure, I played at a high level well beyond high school, so I'm not the avg poster. What I am saying is I wouldn't get knowledge of a coach's system and in game decision making from regular posters. IIRC in that series there was an adjustmet wherein he had not only the 2 D and C come down low for D puck retrievals, he had his wingers come back more for add'l puck support during breakouts, the longer passes he liked were being gobbled up by the 2-3 trap laid by Bos. For zone entries he was having his breakout hit a forward along the boards and look to the center ice for a zig zag type pass to have the Bos D move a little before gaining the zone. After the tweaks they had a ton more chances and shots on goal, but if Malkin and Crosby can't score with 54 shots on goal, coaching isn;'t your main problem. Also Rask was a beast that year.

Show me one reputable source that examines those questions? hes had some legit criticism for his Olympic performance.

Nope, but I wouldn't say the avg poster can do much better in that dept. Bylsma's system was hard to understand for the players bc of its complexity, it's one of the legitimate knocks on it so i don't think that fans knew what it was after 5 years. Most Detroit fans weren't that upset that Babcock left..... yet he is considered the best in the game. So no I don't trust posters to evaluate a coaches ability. Again, it's really freaking hard to watch the game and see the subtle changes a coach makes to his gameplan during a game. He made lots of changes during the Boston series and other series.

Very true, I've like most of his trades initially, but this summer and next season should give a better picture of his roster building. I'm assuming he'll move pick(s) and prospects for a few more NHL roster players.