Patty16

Indeed, which is why I wouldn't trust message board fans just saying he's a horrible coach and only loves stretch passes. There's way more to it, and like it or not, Bylsma is respected by people who know the game way more than message board people. (not directed to you) Shero did a pretty bad job there, it's easy to draft malkin and crosby but harder to surround them with competent talent.

Yes I really do NOT think message boards are a great place to learn about a coach's system, as I said. How do you know who respected posters are on a board ? Like I said the average fan and average board poster can't digest the game from watching TV or even at the arena enough in order to state what a coache gameplanning is like. How he treats the media, his demeanor etc yea I think you could get a vibe from boards....... but not systems. If the fans were right, and Bylsma was such a horrible coach........why did they not do that much better once the horrible coach left?

1) if you're basing your opinion off of fan message boards you are likely getting bad info, the average fan really does have a hard time understanding systems from watching the game on TV. 2) Have you seen the playoffs? Virtually every team is giving up big chances and the better goal tending is winning for the most part. Fleury has been pretty horrible for them, and you can't blame his god awful performances on a perceived system. 3) you are describing his "system" in way too generic of terms, and during the boston series, he was playing against a trap and did change up his zone entries to counter the trap. Their roster was geared more toward run and gun which also does not translate into the playoffs as well. Look at some of those Shero trades. There are some reasons to be weary of Bylsma, (can he simplify a system for a young roster) but the message board ones dont really hold any water. His former players love him and there's a reason he is well respected around the league, guys earn their reps.

He gets a pass bc he's hihgly repsected around the league and this year wasn't a season that mattered other than going for a top pick. And because he knew, as did TP, that nolan wouldnt be back. This is simply not true and has not been reported anywhere. It's amazing how hard you dig to find an issue with virtually everything that this team does.

None of this makes any sense in the context of pro sports. The value added comes from hiring a better coach and recouping some of that through playoff revenue, which is where many teams cash in because players aren't really being paid for those additional games. When coaching salaries increased in the NFL none of those things happened that you listed. The value of a team isn't linear to the revenue/profit it generates. The immediate short term Affect on coaching salaries will be minimal since very few coaches have a resume comparable to MB. It will increase the top tier coaches the next time they are up for a contract. Its quite PA-esque to take this situation and case it as bad for not only TP but for the rest of the league. The Leafs reported offered simialr if not more $$..... would the league try to cast MSLE as crazy? no they wouldn't bc that assessment has virtually no merit. Agreed.

i havent seen chz accurately predict anything, not saying it hasnt happened but most of her stuff is vague allusions to stuff and emoticons.

well until Terry meddles and screws it all up

OK fair enough. Have they been right before and you just not posted (I have been in same position)

Have they ever called anything before? how about GMMB

That doesnt equal 100% on board or agreeing to share "running" the team. It's a journalist saying GMTM prefers his coach agrees on personnel. He's also on record as saying coaches coach and was clear that TN had no say in the roster bc he's the coach. What you said doesn't match what is said in the linked article.

Ummm where is this coming from or even close to substantiated???

I would think GMTM handles trades and functions as director of scouting. If Babs wants roster input it prob has more to do with calling guys up and retaining players as opposed to draft related things. One of the reported beefs Babcock had in DET was no say in who was called up and signing vets. I don't see how this automatically means GMTM is gone

Kyper has called a few things connected to Buf

That and because he's really a two way forward and not a scoring winger per se. Fantasy draft status has no actual value when assessing a player's value to a team. O reilly was a 4th line player on Team Canada at IIHF and that's without it's best players showing up to the tourney. He's not a top line center on most teams. I do like him as a 2 or 3 guy but not at $8M which i saw he was looking for

Not arguing, but where did you see this? I missed it.

I agree for the type of player RoR is we don't need to overpay for that. But Toews/Kane recent deals pay them 13.8M once it kicks in. way more than ROR

He is not. And no one inside hockey thinks he is.

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Barnaby said he has heard Buffalo is a done deal............but that he doesn't trust his source.

I agree re Babcock. I don't think you can exclude Bylsma based on youth development. A great coach should be the top priority

Well that definition would eliminate almost any coach. Not to be crass but he did win the Jack Adams trophy for taking a team w/o Crosby OR Malkin to the playoffs (they tied for most points in division but lost tiebreaker). He's considered a really good coach in hockey circles. You are. Who are developmental coaches? It's silly nonsense. All coaches work with young players.

They had their best years under him. Staal became a Selke level player under him. Letang became a stud under his watch too. Who did he not develop? I'm not on the Bylsma boat, but people are putting wayyyy too much into player development

who did he fail to develop? Jordan Staal certainly grew under his watch. Brooks Orpik had his best years too.

"open slot"

well said. I think what will certianly help his development is the arrival of a top center so he won't be pressured in to thinking he needs to be a top line guy. He still needs some physical maturity and strengthening to be able to play regularly at this level. He def has the hands and vision, but without some significant improvement in his skating and strength, and/or playing with awesome wingers he's not gonna be a top 6 player