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Wow u guys r old.

More hoppy. "Special Ale" is what they call it. My favorite is Hop Stoooopid.

To be fair, it goes the other way too.

Owners keep the appreciation of the team. To equate to a stock, owners keep all the appreciation and players get 52% of the dividend after expenses. Owners know the risk going in. It's not like they're uninformed and I should feel sorry for them if they lose money. Maybe they should run their team better.

So you think the game of football is just as good with replacement referees?

Isn't risk whether known or not still risk?

I invest in the product on the ice. I pay for pop, pretzels at the Arena. That's about as far as I go for investing in a hockey team. Some teams get tax breaks. Just like the Bills are asking for money to renuvate. The money the get from the state is about what the state gets from taxing the players salaries. Owners should have the risk. When was the last time a player got any share of the teams value when they were sold? How much of that relocation fee or ownership change fee do the players get? Nothing. I'm not saying the players are all right and the owners all wrong. I beleive the players proposal goes toward the longevity of the teams and the sport. We don't want to be here in 5 years all over again with failing teams and being asked to take a 17.5% paycut again.

Even if league revenues grow at just 5 per cent (which they have exceeded in all but one of the last six years), the players will be offering back about $340-million (or $70-million a season) from where they are now at 57 per cent. Now if the owners were willing to share that amongst the losing teams they... well I'll just stop there.

HRR is net of expenses to generate that revenue. Coaching and a few staff are not considered expenses deductible for HRR so besides that there's not much left out. BTW the league's first offered wanted to include those currently 'undeductible' expenses. You know what happens when the players on those teams suck? People don't watch, owners lose. How is not getting paid what you were promised not a economic risk? :doh:

So you think the players should bail out the teams that are losing money? Serious question.

Reason number two: Bettman: "We think we're paying players more than we should". Owners signed $200 million in contracts the two days before the lockout. Financial hardship or contract spending orgie? (###### gets censored)

Reason number one, the current CBA is the one that the owners locked out the players to get, it doesn't work. So they want a new CBA who's to say that's going to work?

Why do you side with ownership?

Southern Tier Harvest IPA, slow roasted pork, home grown cherry tomatoes, basil and mozzarella. Easy eats.

http://video.sabres....tid=0&id=186244 Q) Do I have to pay my account in full with the impending work stoppage? A) The final payment for Season Ticketholders was September 12. If you have not made this payment, you can wait until the agreement is reached and we will credit any cancelled games against your balance due. You will not be eligible for a refund or interest unless the account is paid in full. Seems I wasn't the only one.

He has 57 games to go before he's waiver eligilble.

He'd be subject to waivers. He'd be gone.

It's like a hurricane warning is posted for a category 5 and the President is no where to be found. Glad I didn't make that last payment.

Nugent Hopkins one of the notables sent down. Sequin not.

It depends if they were on the AHL clear day roster last year. These guys (Tarnasky and Porter) weren't and are subject to waivers to go down.

Out of Washington: Sept. 13, 2012 Dear [season Ticket Holder]: As you know, the National Hockey League and the players’ association are in the process of negotiating a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. The current CBA expires Sept. 15 and while we hope to successfully reach an agreement by that date, there remains the possibility that negotiations for a successor agreement will not be concluded and a work stoppage may ensue. If that happens, training camps may not open on time and games may be cancelled. If that occurs we have adopted a set of policies and procedures regarding your season ticket holder account. Obviously, we will not charge your account for any NHL game, preseason or regular season, that is not played. If an agreement is not reached by Sept. 15 we will suspend our monthly payment plan and your account will not be charged until further notice. In appreciation of your continued support and loyalty we would like to provide you with a 1 percent APR interest on the funds you have on account related to games that are not played. In the days ahead you will receive additional information that goes into greater detail regarding the interest and refund policy. I want to assure you that the NHL’s priority is to reach an agreement with the players. We all want to talk about exciting games, upcoming opponents and great plays, not the nuances of labor negotiation. We get it -- and I empathize with you. All of us at the Capitals appreciate your support and the passion you bring to Verizon Center. In a few short years you have turned our arena into one of the best and loudest buildings in the NHL. We all appreciate your loyalty and I hope to see you all very soon at Kettler Capitals Iceplex and Verizon Center. With my appreciation and gratitude, Ted Leonsis Founder, Chairman, Majority Owner and CEO Monumental Sports and Entertainment

3 yr extension for Lucic. $6 million per season. That's nuts. Oh wait, with a 17.5% rollback that only $4,950,000

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Hodgson going to play with the Amerks if lockout happens.

I said there was no chance. Why take a cruel bet? Guess it wasn't the money. Common sense is like deodorant. The people that need it most never use it.