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ESPN has a report up saying that the Kaepernick grievance is paying out under $10 million to the players. It doesn't say whether each player gets that amount or if it is split between the two. That doesn't seem like the huge loss for the league that some might have expected when the deal was reached. It's a shame that we'll never get the full details on that one.

Well, he kind of was...

That's the damn Lucic year, the start of the playoff drought, isn't it? I met the wife that year and I still blame her for all of this. ? edit: The actual end result is actually kind of funny. He lit up the score sheet in that game in Germany. And guess where he plays now? Germany. He's hockey's David Hasselhoff.

Isn't Luke Adam our overseas scoring champion? Maybe he can dust off his Ruff-induced dented helmet and lace up the skates one last time.

The bar people constantly set for Dahlin is Bobby F'N Orr. Let that settle in for a second. That may as well be an impossible standard. And this isn't a limbo bar like most of our other players regularly clear with ease. We're talking about the pole vault. If he can even come close to grazing that bar, we are in for one hell of a ride.

I'd trade out Ottawa for Montreal on my list. The Ottawa thing was a bit more short term, so they're probably 4th place for me. What was it, about 13 straight years where we were bounced in the first round by pretty much either Boston or Montreal?

Hmmmm, I can't quite figure out why they chose these two teams...

I'm a little surprised that people think the pricing falls squarely on the Pegulas. We've all met the NCAA, right? But on another note, they did put in the bid for this event, so they should have known what they were getting into.

Does that $120 cover both games on day 1? I've been to frozen fours both ways, where it was one ticket for day one and also where they emptied out the arena and started the second game much later. That price is still too high, but it's slightly more understandable when you're getting 2 games in 1. There's going to be some variability from city to city, but the prices are mostly controlled by the NCAA. It's been a while since I went regularly, but from year to year, the prices were essentially the same. I never once paid their price though. It's a bit of a roll of the dice depending on which team makes it, but most years the scalpers out front were practically handing them away, which will be the case here too. Every now and then the scalpers clean up when youhave Minnesota playing in Minnesota, or Wisconsin playing in Milwaukee, but it wasn't too frequent. For every one of those, there were 5 in places like Columbus, Buffalo, or Tampa Bay.

I'll revisit this one. Apparently over the last week or so there have been a bunch of phone calls going out to people who have tickets, identified as from the NCAA, checking to see if they need extras or know anyone else that wants them. They must really be hurting on this one.

So basically we had a one year spike. I see that and I'm much more curious about whether or not there was something specific about that year. I'd guess that it's just as much of a coincidence as the fact that there's multiple Harvard players on that list. Hickey really doesn't enter the discussion since he signed with Buffalo as soon as possible. He officially signed his deal on July 1st, the first day allowed by the CBA. He would have had to wait until August 1st for free agency. That's not a sign of a guy who was flirting with free agency. Maybe things are different if he had remained with Arizona, but we can only deal with what actually happened. So to say that this is something that happened to Buffalo a lot is again, more than likely just a coincidence. You're tying three cases together, but only one was truly a case of a guy spurning the Sabres. Petersen is the only one. With Vesey, Tim Murray traded for a guy who was already on the record as saying he was going to free agency. Hickey signed as quickly as possible after the trade There's one positive out of this whole discussion though. It just goes to show just how rare this move really is. It's really not worth the stress that some like to induce on themselves each time a college player is drafted, "we'll lose him in 4 years when he refuses to sign". It happens just about as often as the Sabres win two games in a row.

Do you know what level the teams were (not age level but talent level)? I'd imagine that the further away you get from the top level, the more rough the game are. That's a big part of why fighting has died off at the NHL level, with so much more talent out there, they stick much more to the actual hockey. The sooner the old "I went to a fight and a hockey game broke out" joke dies off, the better.

You want more controversy when it comes to Babcock? I don't think he got nearly enough out of everything he had in Detroit. He lost his hall of famers and then it all started to unravel. I'd take the results they had any day, but they could have done more.

Yeah, that definitely looks to be the case. There really aren't that many high end seniors in general and it looks like most of those were undrafted. GA said upthread that it's fairly common, but I really don't think it is. The names we have seen go that route really are just a small drop in the bucket compared to the full list of drafted players. That's mostly just a matter of semantics though, whether or not you'd call it common.

It's funny. It took so much time for Harper and Machado to get their record contracts, but now Trout just quickly blew them out of the water.

I can think of a few missed goals by beer league refs that could use a good video review.

I forget the specifics of the timeline there, but was Petersen already gone before they drafted UPL?

Right, but the poster asked specifically about undrafted. There's no need to dig in the heels here. Typically it is going to be very different players that go the two routes. Your guys are good players who have been recognized as such for years and choose to go that route. The guys who are currently undrafted free agents today are more of the late bloomers.It is very rare for there to even be a drafted college free agent as of this calendar date, too many hoops to jump through, so they're not a relevant topic just yet.

That kid's going to grow up to be soft. Clearly it wasn't a real table.

Going 5th overall, you might as well be undrafted.? At least I can understand the mixup on this one, becoming a free agent after refusing to sign with Phoenix.

That's one level where I have a serious issue with fighting. You've got a bunch of teenagers out there and that takes the risks of the head injuries to a whole new level. Let them go, ok, but a fighting penalty should be the end of their night. People always like to say the players know the risks in situations like this, but not when it comes to a bunch of kids out there. I see that they now have suspensions for three getting into three fights over the course of the year, so that's at least a start. I also know that some people will say that teenagers fight all the time. That doesn't mean it should be condoned.

But avoid the S-A-B-E-R-S spelling in the future. I'm all for tar and feathering when that shows up.

I hope the one on the left has an Eichel jersey too because that kid has his hair. I don't really care one bit about the so called holiday, but my very Irish neighbors through a big party each year. It's the superbowl of neighborhood parties around here, so I enjoy that as much as possible. I'm the only one not wearing any green though.

I went to a school with a little rat dog as a mascot. This is one case where mine is actually more intimidating.

How many more times are we going to have to talk about Streisand in this thread?