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Stop injecting facts.

I could have sworn we traded Savoie for the present.

Yep - but then you have to consider cap space doesn't matter as much to the Sabres as they're always $10m under

Nm thought you meant Rust.

Yeah, the way the math fits is another thing that gives this one wings.

36 goals was good for 16th in the NHL and several players ahead of him are centers. 49 players scored 70 points last season and again you have centers and defensemen to contend with. Him not being a center hurts his value a bit, but byram needing a payday does lower his value considerably.

$5m cap hit won't hinder a Tuch signing. Theoretically we just saved $5.5m in cap by trading Peterka (compared to the two guys we got back).

I just don't Rust to block us from keeping Tuch or actually getting better. Plus I sure as hell wouldn't trade them Helenius

If we traded two firsts for Dobson this place would burn down.

Regardless of our personal feelings on the value and utility of Rust as an asset I think we also need to consider some things about Rust as a player: He is veteran Stanley Cup winner and a veteran leader and a dog on the ice, capable of giving you more value than his $5M contract. And he is probably at this moment a better (not more skilled, better) player than the man we just traded, a man whose departure just left a Rust-sized hole in the lineup. Such things seem to be important to our management right now.

Of course but they're not giving up 2 for that package

Agree with this too. Otherwise, I would rather bridge Byram than give him away for a late 1st or even 2 late firsts.

He's Czech. I assume you mean mrtka.

Like, is D more important than Winger? Tough to answer that without context. a stud goalie is most valuable a 1C is arguably the most important forward position but the game IS changing. For some teams, their best player is a winger. Wingers facilitate the whole offence now if necesssry, most teams utilize free wheeling systems in the o zone. Forwards also drive play in today’s game more than d overall, I believe, analytically it really comes down to who you slot in the role. I don’t think “D” is more valuable than “W”, or 4D more valuable than 1LW, in any sort of on-the-surface way that would sway whatever given hypothetical comparable much beyond the determination you’d be arriving at by simply comparing and contrasting the two real world players in the no longer hypothetical comp

Trade protection just keeps you from going to buffalo though. We might not be a good partner for that reason.

I see what you did there

On Rust, I might be wrong on this, but I think he has a partial NTC through June 30th and it comes off July 1. So, unless we aren't on the list or he outright waives his NTC, a trade might not be an option until July 1. Again, I might be wrong.

I'd take 2 for Byram and 9 if they offered. Misa would be a NHL player this year on 28 of 32 teams

The question is: What is bust? Does anyone truly believe that Adams believes that he'll be fired if the Sabres don't make the playoffs this year? The team is on a Power/Levi mid-to-late 20s timeline. Ruff will be retired, the assistant coaches will be able to be renewed or let go, and Appert will take over behind the bench. But Adams?

Thank you for using “superfluous” and thank you for spinning it that way because that’s an excellent way to look at it. what do we want to be. Are we trying to maximize the now, or are we happy saying our best days are ahead of us What are you happy with? Everyone can ask themselves I’m tired of giving ourselves the caveat that it’s “not really our time”. Never will be, till we make it so by choice

I can't agree or disagree with this, but would you agree that Kesselring plays a POSITION more important than Peterka's?

I'm not worried about 84 games. Does it anticipate a league expansion where trying to divide the games played when using 82 creates a strange dynamic? The rest sounds good. Overall it means there is labor peace so the Sabres can continue to miss the playoffs without any time off. 🙂

I don’t want futures for Byram. Preferably 1 NHL roster player va 2 with a diluted skill level.

84 effing games. funk me. the league's running out of ways to grow revenue. adding a couple more games seems like an easy, dirty way to earn a few more bucks.

It absolutely would be if I felt we needed Peterka less than the two players we received but I don’t believe that to be the case. As I said, to you yesterday, I HATE the trade and it’s not because I can’t foresee a situation where the players we got actually serve the team better: it’s possible it’s the principle. I KNOW money was a factor. I KNOW we didn’t fully prioritize winning, now. I refuse to back down from that: I believe fully in my heart of hearts that the team, while not owing us a winner, owes us their best effort to win. after 15 years, I mean if no one will stand by me on that, I’m convicted and obsessive enough to do it myself but the line must be drawn here THIS far No further