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For last year I would say yes. The year before when Tage was hurt and moved to the wing on a lower line and Mitts moved up to the top line he played well and the production of the line was still a high yield line.

I wasn’t disagreeing with you I was branching I say it with politeness - don’t assume you are being disagreed with just because you’ve been quoted you proposed the idea a playoff berth is being or could be construed as meaningless and I responded

You totally misread my response. Accomplishing the low bar of playoff qualification can be done without depleting its assets. With some wise decisions and a greater exhibition of more urgency that which we all want to attain can be attained. I say this with politeness that it might serve you better if you respond to what was said and not reactively to what you think was said.

Didn’t say it was. ROR, on the other hand

Are you arguing we should have kept Savoie? Also, I'd argue McLeod did make the Sabres better. Trading Mitts wasn't a colossal error.

I'll set aside the National Hokey League and NHL Rigged talk before saying: I am so impressed with what Edmonton did in coming back in that game after it appeared that they'd had their doors blown off and were going to lose by 5, 6, or more. More impressive still? The Oilers did what they did in a game where they could not get McDavid away from Barkov. Just incredible. We need 7 games of this!

Series tied 2-2. I love it. Great to see the Oiler's battle back. May the best team win.

Sounds like you had money on the game. NHL officiating has been and always will be a disaster. No way should any one call be scrutinized, the entire system blows. The NHL doesn’t know WTF it wants to do with officiating. Sometimes they say they’ll let the players police themselves, other times they call penalties when a player touches an opponent with their stick. Until the NHL figures out how they actually want the games called, I won’t bother to even think about it. Garage league with beer league ideology and former minor league players with axes to grind, calling penalties on the teams that never gave them a chance. Bush league nonsense.

Bryson's games played by season in his career: 38, 73, 59, 36, 48. He's currently the 7D, which plays a ton more than 15 games per season barring incredible team health. (This team employs Samuelsson.)

I'm not interested in stats as justification for chaining ourselves to players who don't get it done when it counts. We've been playing that game for like 20 years on this site. How many massive losing streaks have Tage Thompson's Sabres experienced? What's Tage bringing to this team when he's getting shoved off the puck in the corners despite being 6 foot 6? Guess the Sabres shouldn't have traded Pierre Turgeon either. Anyone still showing up is a fool anyway.

McLeod is best cast as a 3C. But I'd say he wasn't in over his head when temporarily elevated (caveat: in the regular season, on this roster). He was solid backfilling for TNT on the California trip and I'd argue he should have been the 2C in terms of ice time from November onwards, while moving Cozens down the lineup/to wing, rather than sending McLeod down the lineup (between Malenstyn/Lafferty/NAK where he surprisingly scored no goals for awhile). Ruff should have realized that way before the trade deadline -- he did and commented on the poor center play of TNT/Cozens -- but there was Cozens still playing center in the starting lineup the entire time (except one game 11/1). Per the bold, based on the duplicity of Dahlin/Power/Byram, Byram may be a better player than McLeod, but McLeod has a role on the team that no one else currently fills. Byram can't get to play his preferred role because of two #1 picks (one of whom carries everyone, the other who... Byram may be better than, but won't be given a chance to show).

lol Morrissey is a fraud - - - 6th is really good tbh considering the tire fire the sabres are. Conjures Eichel 8th in mvp voting vibes and we’ve seen what happens when guys like JE and Sam Reinhart blossom on good teams. My guess is Dahlin would have been nominated if we made the playoffs

Beyond the actual experience of it, how anyone could doubt that they literally need the berth as a functional building block to BUILDING said future is well beyond me

Most of “we” anyway.

There is no future until they ice a winning team, finally you have it backwards The idea that a single playoff berth, when we haven’t had one in a decade and a half, is meaningless is truly absurd logic Like, absurd of the highest order. devoid of logic? What words are strong enough, here? HOW THOROUGHLY do we need to prove how special making the playoffs is? We never f*cking make it lol. “One meaningless berth”. One meaningless lottery win. ay caramba

We are past the point where moving prospects stings.

I stand corrected, he won this one

The sound of truthi-ness. Helenius seems like he might be our top prospect right now. But he’s still a big unknown. There is value in moving an unknown for a known quantity, especially when success has been so hard to find. It would have to be for a substantial player, but moving even our top prospects needs to be on the table right now.

McLeod made them better than they would have been with Savoie

Ryan McLeod might be a better player than Matt Savoie right now, but in no way did McLeod make the Sabres a better team. And now the Sabres are up against the cap and McLeod is going to demand a contract that he probably won't be capable of living up to as a 3C, or be forced to play over his head as a 2C, while the Sabres move out better players to keep him. Nothing Adams does is right and the team is doomed to fail so long as he remains.

It’s because trades aren’t a zero sum game. Trades are also a means to an end, not a valuable metric in and of themselves. if winning trades is a thing, yes the blues won the trade because the trade facilitated their goal. Two teams can win a trade, 2 teams can lose. A good example of a trade both teams lost is Byram Mittelstadt To your point, the sabres have already lost the ROR deal: that’s another thing people don’t tabulate properly - time isn’t a negligible competent in trades lol. Our goal when trading ROR wasn’t to get a guy who was better in 5 years. The trade torpedoed an entire regime and set the team back years If you can analyze that swap as a “win”, it’s a pyrrhic victory at best but in reality with an awareness for context, it can only be construed as a colossal error

I also haven’t read a strong argument that he’s won any trades, ftr

Dealing who?

I don't want to trade Helenius for Rakell either. But I have to point out that Dylan Cozens, Jack Quinn and Owen Power were far better prospects than any player currently in the Buffalo pipeline. In terms how they rank as prospects — which is not proof of how they will be as players — Helenius and Östlund are similar to where Peyton Krebs was 2 or 3 years after he was selected.

Conservatives doing victory laps is par for the course with these traitors. MAGA. Scum.