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This is a disingenuous argument because every C wasn't good enough to overcome this. They literally won the Cup. McDavid lines up against Barkov, he lost the series... does that make Barkov better than McDavid? What about other playoff teams?

Doesn't change the fact that McLeod is not just a 3c. Which is your argument. Why can't McLeod be a 2c on a playoff team? What's your reasoning other than "he's a 3c because that's what he was in Edmonton"

*former Rochester American

Maybe but Im not gonna try and spelll any other Euro Ranger's last name starting with Z

I cannot decide which part is my favorite. The “off to a good start buddy” was classic, the warning of “you’re not scaring anybody” after the primal drunk screams, yelling BANG! every time he landed a punch, “I got it all on ree-cord,” crawling out of the water like Gollum, or the air time during the second time the dude gets flung down the hill. ESPN instant classic

Man, I hate golf.

Buy did we clear up the panini issue?

I can’t believe that guy just kept chirping away and wanting more after getting fed knuckles and tossed into the pond. Slow play my most hated thing about golf, but I don’t lose my sh*t over it.

https://www.mediaite.com/media/sports/watch-ex-nhl-player-gets-attacked-by-golfer-and-promptly-beats-him-up-in-wild-video/

No football and no hockey, worst part of the year.

So how long will this drag out?

We actually don't know what Buffalo offered him. But what are we arguing about anyway? It hardly matters. What matters is Adams did not fill that hole adequately when Ullmark left. He still hasn't.

Oh ya I thought you meant he could be a 2C on a playoff team. Meaning a good 2C. Could he end up as our 2C? Definitely. Will we make the playoffs? Definitely not.

It wasn't Boston per-say, it was anywhere new. He wanted a clean break and Boston offered him a contract he liked. For all we know his injury history scared most teams off but Boston and Buffalo both gave him solid offers.

Bump?

Well I’m glad we cleared up the Panera Panarin issue.

So, has Adams actually said he’s happy with the goaltenders?

I'd say first bold was true for too many NHL games. It's why Levi hasn't stuck. Second bold, I haven't seen that as an issue in the AHL. The questionable goals I've seen at the AHL level are more of the Ryan Miller whiffs from distance type. It's an interesting point to break down, but in general what you seem to be talking about is his ability to make high-danger saves, where a shooter has time to pick his spot? Don't have time to do a deep dive in to that, but I did see and post elsewhere on here where (big) UPL struggled the past 2 years in high-danger situations, whereas (small) Levi and Lyon were very good (top 10). I have no idea if that was representative of the league as a whole. Personally, I think coaching is pushing past the Robin Lehner giants by cross-crease movement attacks and controlled lateral movement is becoming vogue as the pre-eminent goalie skill, but that's a whole other discussion.

I didn’t say Stanley Cup contending 2C But, as with any conversation re: Sabres, I thought it was implied that when I say he could hack it as a playoff 2C that it meant we could qualify to be a playoff team with him in that role apologies if that was unclear I’ll worry about the playoffs if we ever get there

So he lines up against Bennett instead of Barkov. Think it over.

I'm not and I know it. So explain to me how going to Boston helps with it?

That's called smugness. But you already know that as this is the time of year you always start resorting to it in extra doses.

Well, ya Need a F sans injuries just to get back to break even. We need 2 sans injuries to improve upon a team that sat in last place most of the year

People want to put hard line labels on them as if we don’t KNOW hockey is a free flowing back and forth game where one player, say, a superstar, can’t make all the difference on their own. We should know by now that roles are entirely dependant on all the pieces around them. you are right, McLeod isn’t definitively 2nd or 3rd line: he can be either