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And braught in Jeff Skinner! 😀

At least an expansion team gets to build a roster from NHL players.

Personally I would get rid of Adams annd everyone on the coaching staff. But who the hell will take the jobs? Anyone with any ambition won’t imo. I mean I would love to get Pete De Boer, but I don’t imagine he’s sitting around his house hoping for a call from Terry.

Because they have executed their plan well, and support the youngster’s development with vets.

I hear you but since he's here I see that as the obvious hire for Terry. What other experienced hockey guy would take the job? Cliff Fletcher? Brian Burke? Hextall? Nobody out there on the unemployment line I'd hire as GM. But this is why I said in the other thread Give it over to Jarmo and let him hire Torts as coach (just like Columbus). This is not because I think Torts can take us to the promised land but I think maybe, just maybe, he could change the culture and do the "subtraction" phase. EVERYTHING needs to change and that's the sort of shock to the system it might require. and it is correct.

We keep coming back to the bold every couple years.

What were the numbers for the first 10 games last year compared to this year? Might be a good thread to kick back up at the end of the month. Thanks

Totally agree, in all honesty if you played in the league you can only go through so much losing before you’ve had enough. Tons of really good teams would trade for Tuch.

In other words we need a mini rebuild.

I’ve been saying this forever, they need a Ray Lewis, Takeo Spikes type of leader on defense who isn’t on the down swing of his career aka Von Miller and Nick Bosa. I’m not impressed with Beane. Take Josh Allen off this team and you’re near the bottom of the league. Mediocre offensive line, mediocre defense, no true #1 receiver. They were lucky to beat Baltimore week 1 otherwise they are 3-3. ^ Agree with all of this

Jarmo already had a GM spot with Columbus and it was nothing to write home about. A big fat negative to me. This entire front office, including scouts, coaches and assistant coaches need to go. The entire culture has to change. Way too many people just taking paychecks doing a ***** job. Look at the scouting department. With as many picks this team has had they have tons of misses. The prospects should be much better than this. I would go so far to replace the strength and conditioning coaches as well.

I would fire the entire hockey department along with whatever scout wanted Mason Geertsen. I seen enough of Geertsen in the AHL with the Silver Knights and he shouldn’t be in the NHL. I would go so far in firing the strength and conditioning coaches as well.

From what I’ve seen from San Jose, they look already ahead of Buffalo.

Over the last two NHL seasons there have been twelve mid-season head coaching changes. Three of those changes were done by teams in the midst of lost seasons where there was no goal of making the playoffs at the time of the change: - in 23-24 NJ fired Ruff for Green Travis late in the year - in 24-25 Chicago fired Richardson after only 26 games, but there were no illusions of them making a playoff run - also in 24-25, the Flyers fired Tortorella with only 9 games left The other nine mid-season head coaching changes in the last two seasons, were done by teams that had plans to make the playoffs and at an early enough point in the season where the change was intended to be impactful. The only one that did not result in an improved winning/points % was Boston replacing Montgomery with Sacco early last year. The other eight changes all resulted in improved performance, ranging from the modest in Ottawa going from a .423% under DJ Smith to a .500% under Jacques Martin, to the dramatic in Edmonton where the Oilers went from playing .269 hockey under Woodcroft to .702 under Knoblach. The others were: in 2023-24: - NYI went from .544 under Lambert to .608 under Roy and made the playoffs - LA went from .583 under McLellan to .632 under Hiller and made the playoffs - STL went from .482 under Berube to .601 under Drew Bannister and missed - Minn went from .368 under Evason to .587 under Hynes and missed in 2024-25: - Det went from .441 under Lalonde to .583 under McLellan and missed - STL went from .431 under Bannister to .641 under Montgomery and made the playoffs In the 14 year drought, the Sabres have not made a mid-season coaching change at a point in the season where the change could have a positive impact on that year's standings. They are crazy not to at least try.

and The Hockey Guy ranked them 32nd in his early season power rankings 🙂 32 Thoughts today led off with Buffalo talk and the suggestion even Ruff has checked out already. Season is over. The one thing TP did do was set himself up for an easy hire upon firing. Jarmo would take the GM job and he's already on the payroll. You know it's coming, it's just when and how. Will it matter? who knows. can't be much worse.

We all knew this year was a coin toss. On defense we replaced both safeties with young subpar performers, our LB’s are smaller weight wise but outside of Milano who’s injured often, we don’t have a consistent pass rush and our run stopping is probably bottom 5 in the league. We have no star impact players on D, no one to lead by example on a regular basis. Offensively we need impact receivers with speed. And for god sakes get a fullback with size to help in multiple facets of the O game, not the least of which would be blocking schemes.

There is nothing to indicate it could be anything in even 3-4 years. It needs a complete reset, like an expansion team. Every single person here gone and a full reset with a new philosophy that will then take several years to build.

In only 6 weeks Vrabal already took the lead in the division with a young team. Embarrassing. Not a good sign. Allen is starting to look like Rivers career 2.0. It might be time to consider moving off this staff before Allen is past his prime.

Dahlin has done this in other years too. They are already breaking from any semblance of a real system. It's the earliest this has started so far, but it happens every year. The team concept breaks down and individuals overplay and make mistakes. It'll get worse if things don't take some sort of radical turn but I doubt it as they just seem checked out already.

All depends on who and hopefully not anyone from within. The entire front office needs to go, along with every scout pushing for Smurf hockey players, plus the entire coaching staff along with strength and conditioning coaches.

The Bills hit a home run with Josh Allen and if we had any other quarterback they would be like the Raiders.

Buffalo sports Where dreams go to die.... What a WTF Monday THAT was! 😵

The Bills caught a bad case of the Sabres

Only if they move on from Adams now.

I don't see how anyone can consider this team a contender right now. This defense has no chance to stop anybody, and the offense is not a world beater with no weapons outside of Cook and Shakir.