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The reason that it was suggested he be the 1st out of the lineup is all of the guys that will be coming back are offensively minded. So, you'd likely want to not be removing your defensively minded guys out initially. IMHO Rosen and Östlund have been playing better than Quinn. Expect that you have a better constructed roster removing Quinn than removing, say, Kozak who's been very good in a checking role or Malenstyn who's been very good on the PK. It isn't hate; it's simply a #'s game. Could see him being removed from the lineup after Krebs, but if he is kept in the lineup in Krebs' spot (because he isn't getting more ice time than Zucker, Benson, or Norris) can he handle that role? What is your preference for lineup when Zucker (and quite possibly Norris too per reports yesterday) comes back in? Forgot about Dunne. Would pull him out of the lineup before Krebs and Greenway and depending upon the opponent, Quinn too. Again, it isn't ire, and was one of the few here that expected a bounceback year from Quinn. It's strictly numbers and believe the 2 Swedes have been playing better than him in a very similar role.
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Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
mjd1001 replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
I'll correct myself on one thing about Greenway. I don't know if the numbers back this up but I believe from what I see with my own eyes he is a very effective penalty killer. It's just beyond that I don't see anything special or even above average about his play. He's better than someone like Quinn or Cozens who actually hurt the team when they was on the ice the last couple of years I don't see Greenway doing that. It's just that even strength, I'd rather have one of the other guys in front of him. -
GDT: Oilers at Sabres 11/17 7pm MSG, WGR 550
PromoTheRobot replied to Brawndo's topic in The Aud Club
Anyone catch this crack from Rob Ray last night? 😂 https://x.com/OilersJack/status/1990670478726553894 -
Watching this game and the performance of the Rochester call-ups in general have me convinced that allowing Leone to slip through their fingers would be one of the all time blunders that haunts us forever. The fact Rochester is at the top of their division despite all the call-ups and Levi (the guy expected to carry the team) being a huge liability in net says it all.
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Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Doohickie replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
He also had probably his best game as a Sabre last night, and arguably outplayed McLeod. It's weird: This team seems to have new talent bubbling up and figuring out who to jettison will probably determine the Sabres' success this season. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
JoeSchmoe replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
I'm not really a Greenway guy myself, but unlike Malenstyn he'll at least drop the gloves when he has to. He can score the odd goal too, which Malenstyn does not. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Doohickie replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
And really, the fact that both are on the roster and one of them not on IR might be the exception rather than the rule. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
inkman replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
I mean I guess strike while the iron is hot. It’s seems like weird timing immediately after his best game as a professional you want to move Malenstyn. I’m still trying to figure out what the love fest with Kozak is. He’s alright, I just don’t see much more than a 12th or 13th forward in him. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
LGR4GM replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Wahlberg is not a center IMPO and he is 2+ years away at this rate. Helenius is and should be a middle 6 C at some point. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Doohickie replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
We have 6 centers (when Norris can play) of varying abilities. Tage and Krebs also play wing regularly and I can see any of the others also moving to wing when expedient. I have my worries about the durability of Norris (as many of us do), but I kind of like our center corps and depth right now. And duh: I forgot all about Kulich. And don't we have another C or 2 in Rochester that are approaching NHL readiness? Wahlberg, Helenius? I like Kozak but I think he might still be in the honeymoon phase. I'm not sure I take him over Krebs. Possibly, but I'm not there yet. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Jorcus replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
I like Malenstyn better than greenway. He is faster and has more endurance. Greenway seems to last about 35 seconds on a shift then he is standing straight up. You can always tell when he is gassed by that vertical posture. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Pimlach replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Krebs, Malenstyn, Kozak, and Greenway are all contributing. Kozak being the best of the bunch. Malenstyn cleanly hits everything in sight, Greenway is playing the game he can play. Both help on the PK. Every team needs players like this. -
Right but you need 7 Dmen on the roster. When Kesselring returns, that will prompt Metsa's move back to Rochester. If Dunne is waiver exempt then yeah, demote him. He's fine but nothing more than a 4th liner. He's a little slow but seems to think the game well and is hard to move off the puck along the boards.
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Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Doohickie replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Eh. Not sure I agree. One or more of them may have to go, but Malenstyn played probably his best game as a Sabre last night while Greenway was just kind of okay. -
On last nights game. Nice to see more than 3 goals again. Sabres seemed to have good control of the game. You have to like the beginning of the third period when you expected an Oilers push the Sabres seemed to still control play and when they got the 4th goal it was pretty much over. Ellis played his best game and sent Leon D back to the bench snarling after that chance in the third. Ellis is quick side to side to side, seems to absorb the puck well and has a good glove. Sure looks promising. We can dump on Adams for a lot of things but claiming this guy when he had 4 other goalies on 1 way contracts might be one of his best moves. Certainly if our forwards return to health Östlund and Rosen are going back. Kind of wonder about the order of things. You would think Dunn goes back first then Rosen as Östlund can play on the bottom lines to replace Dunn. People were quick to write these guys off based on limited reps in the NHL but go back and look at Thompson or Mitt's path to the NHL. Both were almost written off as busts until they were sent down. One's a lot better than the other but they are both NHL players. The Oilers have no forward depth at all. You have to wonder in 2 years when McDavid hit's the eject button how Leon D. is going to deal with the pressure of having to deal with this all by himself. This team is not going back to the finals this year.
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Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Pimlach replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Thompson has been very good lately. Two things I see are much more physical play and better attention to details in his two way game. He is not just getting in the way by waving his stick, he is winning puck battles and physically overpowering opponents. He can be a complete beast if he wants to be. He could be taking another step in the maturation of his game. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
mjd1001 replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Who is 1C versus who is 2C and this team doesn't really matter to me. I'm sure they'll both play in the power play, and it's not like you are going to put two All-Star wingers with one of them and not with the other. The lines are always changing anyway. If you want to call one of them 1C and one of them 2C then fine... But to me when they're both in the lineup, theuir lines will pretty much be interchangeable. I'd expect if or when Norris is fully up to speed, there might be some days where Tage at center and his line would get more ice time, and other days where Norris would. Maybe you simply say Norris is 2c because you want to bring him back slowly, and maybe even for the rest of the year, You don't want him getting the most ice time simply to reduce wear and tear on the body/injury chance. I understand your point but for me Greenway would be the first guy out. I really don't see him doing much positive other than eating up ice time. He's just a very expensive "filler" at wing to me. -
How much does the poor play in front of these goalies affect the stats ? Sabres still give up a lot of shots where the team D was absolutely terrible. Last night, the only goal allowed was being caught on a line change. Other games, getting back on D was too often optional and killed us. Much better last night.
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Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
JoeSchmoe replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Krebs and Malenstyn don't offer anything that can't be supplied by Kozak and Greenway. If I'm in charge, I'm chopping Malenstyn first, Krebs 2nd. -
Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
LGR4GM replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
Would be nice to know before the draft if this team actually has center depth because the draft is wing and defense heavy. -
Players get singled out to become the symbols for the frustration (understandably) of this team. Samuelsson is a classic example of that where he became vilified and demonized. Now look at him! I would say he is playing very well and more importantly has become one of our consistent performers on the unit. I, like you, have been disappointed in Quinn relative to my expectations for him. But let's put things in context when evaluating any young Sabre. Usually, they are rushed in their roles. Instead of playing on a lower line and working their way up, they often are prematurely elevated for a higher line playing against the better players on other teams. That's a franchise failure in the handling of players. I do see Quinn getting better. It's not a grand leap but from what I have seen there is an incremental progression. I'll gladly accept that steady improvement which is more of the norm on how young players develop in comparison to the few who almost right from the start demonstrate that they are high-end players. I recommend more patience when evaluating him.
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Lindy Ruff: if Thompson keeps this play up, he'll be #1 C
Doohickie replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
One last thought: This is why teams want centers over wingers. Centers can shift over to the wing and shift back to center; it seems like this is the way Tage operates best- moving back and forth. I think the change in responsibilities sharpens his focus. And having Norris (maybe eventually) and McCleod, and Kozak and Krebs and Östlund all ready to play C, but filling in at wing if need be, makes the team stronger. If one of the center spine has a rough game, you and push him out to the wing and take the pressure off; there are other centers that can step in. -
Is Dunne waiver exempt? Don't forget Metsa is up with the Sabres now too.
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Don’t harsh my vibe. Outstanding.
