Colten Ellis Love Fest

[Turbo44]

4 minutes ago, Believer said:

Then again, UPL has one clean OT and 5 frame shoot out win. Ellis can’t say the same.

Except for one 3 month period, UPL has proven to be a below replacement level goalie, not counting his last year in juniors. He’s not becoming the next ullmark 

[PromoTheRobot]

11 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

I'm thinking forward not creating crises. 

If you are a good GM you can't wait for the crisis, you have to think ahead about what is coming and what you need. You know there will be extra roster players very soon. You also see you just lost your D man for "an extended time" so if you want to compete seriously you make a move. You at least try and look for opportunities. 

I don't want to blow a season on any sort of if only they'd................

I am certain they are listening for offers on goalies right now. But they aren't going to fire sale them.

Edited 11 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[Turbo44]

2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I am certain they are listening for offers on goalies right now. But they aren't going to fire sale them.

Always worry about injuries but if you can trade UPL and one of Ellis or Lyon gets hurt, you call up Levi. If Ellis or Lyon fall off a cliff, you call up Levi. It’s not rocket science except for probably Adams

[PromoTheRobot]

12 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

Always worry about injuries but if you can trade UPL and one of Ellis or Lyon gets hurt, you call up Levi. If Ellis or Lyon fall off a cliff, you call up Levi. It’s not rocket science except for probably Adams

It's a team effort. Fairburn calls it Kev-mo. 🤣

[bob_sauve28]

8 hours ago, Doohickie said:

St. Louis Blues have no choice but make a trade for a new goalie to save their season

 

Yes, UPL to the Blues rescue! 🤣

 

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I believe the window to get the best return and settle the goalie issue is open now while there are still players out with injuries. You waive UPL and he makes it through his value is virtually forever tarnished by that. It would take a long time and a consistent level of play UPL has barely managed once before to recover. GMKA needs to trade him now for whatevers and take what Adams would consider an ego punch, although, ironically, smart Sabres fans would actually appreciate the move.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 hour ago, bob_sauve28 said:

Yes, UPL to the Blues rescue! 🤣

 

What happened to the guy who blanked us, Joel Hofer? Turned back into a pumpkin?

[PerreaultForever]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I am certain they are listening for offers on goalies right now. But they aren't going to fire sale them.

I just don't want Adams to try to "win the trade". Just make the deal to make the team better now. 

[mjd1001]

5 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I just don't want Adams to try to "win the trade". Just make the deal to make the team better now. 

Agree.

If they can trade UPL, I don't think 'waiting it out' to get the best offer is going to make much of a difference.  I think his worth on the trade market is pretty low, and that isn't going to change.

The value in moving him is not in the return you get, but in any potential cap space relief, just getting rid of one goalie when you have so many between Buffao and rochester, and not having to use an extra roster spot in Buffalo for 3 goalies.  

If you could Move UPL and get that cap space, an extra roster spot, room for the exisiting guys to play more, and a mid round draft pick...I might say that mid round pick is the least valuable to the team now.  I want those other things 'yesterday', and If that isn't possible, give them to me no later than 'today'.

Edited 1 hour ago by mjd1001

[French Collection]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

Agree.

If they can trade UPL, I don't think 'waiting it out' to get the best offer is going to make much of a difference.  I think his worth on the trade market is pretty low, and that isn't going to change.

The value in moving him is not in the return you get, but in any potential cap space relief, just getting rid of one goalie when you have so many between Buffao and rochester, and not having to use an extra roster spot in Buffalo for 3 goalies.  

If you could Move UPL and get that cap space, an extra roster spot, room for the exisiting guys to play more, and a mid round draft pick...I might say that mid round pick is the least valuable to the team now.  I want those other things 'yesterday', and If that isn't possible, give them to me no later than 'today'.

I think another plus is the intangible effect he has on his teammates when he is in the net.
I think he brings Eeyore vibes to the team.

I agree that you move him ASAP.

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I just don't want Adams to try to "win the trade". Just make the deal to make the team better now. 

So you want him to get taken to the cleaners? So you can complain about what a bad trade he made?

[mjd1001]

7 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

So you want him to get taken to the cleaners? So you can complain about what a bad trade he made?

As per my post above, I just want him off the team. 

Is there a chance he could find his game and turn into a good goalie for someone else? Sure. 

There's also a chance that never happens. And right now I think the team benefits going forward having one less goaltender on it, that being UPL. 

If you give him away with no return at all except having an extra roster spot, I'm okay with it. I wouldn't consider that being taken to the cleaners. 

Not moving him, having him play games where he's below average, having three goaltenders on the roster, paying him the couple percent of cap space that you're paying him..... Everyday that continues, I consider that being taken to the cleaners.