73 man/games lost to injury in 15 games

[Demoted]

9 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I know, but you wait. Once Adams has a presser he will use injuries as the excuse. It'll be a veiled we can't blame injuries but............. sort of thing. 

Doesn't matter what he says though, it's not an excuse. He can say the sky is falling and it wouldn't matter.

Kevin Adams needs to lose his job and nothing is going to stop people from wanting that. The entire team can be injured and it doesn't matter. 

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[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, Demoted said:

Doesn't matter what he says though, it's not an excuse. He can say the sky is falling and it wouldn't matter.

Kevin Adams needs to lose his job and nothing is going to stop people from wanting that. The entire team can be injured and it doesn't matter. 

It's time to end it. 

Kev resigns. Lindy resigns. Jarmo interim GM. Mike Leone interim HC. Get rid of as many as the assistants you can. Bring up most of the Amerks staff.

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[Carmel Corn]

6 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

It's time to end it. 

Kev resigns. Lindy resigns. Jarmo interim GM. Mike Leone interim HC. Get rid of as many as the assistants you can. Bring up most of the Amerks staff.

Sorry, but Terry is too busy watching the paint dry on his yacht.

[PromoTheRobot]

4 minutes ago, Carmel Corn said:

Sorry, but Terry is too busy watching the paint dry on his yacht.

I personally don't care or want to hear from Terry. There is nothing he can say that would make people happy. Is he disappointed? Don't care. Fix it by hiring the right people and let them speak for you.

[DarthEbriate]

What are they up to in man-games lost now? 79 in 16? 

 

Carson Meyer is back! (in Rochester)

[LTS]

16 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I know, but you wait. Once Adams has a presser he will use injuries as the excuse. It'll be a veiled we can't blame injuries but............. sort of thing. 

A reason is a justifiable explanation for an outcome.  An excuse is an unjustifiable reason.  Injuries are real.

The question we need to debate is whether the players being lost to injury would change the outcomes of the results on the ice. In other words, do the injuries justify the losses?

If we believe they do, then it's a reason and we should accept that the CURRENT situation is an outcome of the injuries.

Now, the OVERALL situation and a discussion on Kevyn Adams as a GM.. that's another story.  He's hopeless and even if the injuries are seen as a reason for the outcome I would still argue that the team isn't where it needs to be and hasn't been.

[John Tucker]

I actually forgot Danforth and Norris were part of this team.  Not that it really matters anyway

[jad1]

17 hours ago, PerreaultForever said:

I know, but you wait. Once Adams has a presser he will use injuries as the excuse. It'll be a veiled we can't blame injuries but............. sort of thing. 

The Sabres do have injuries, but they are made worse because Adams has built a roster of costly non-contributors, who have not stepped up.

Adams signed an injury-prone Greenway to a $4M extension this past offseason.  Greenway has been injured more than half the year (surprise) and has no goals in the games he's played.

He signed Quinn to a $3M+ contract this offseason.  Quinn has 1 point the last 5 games.

He signed Byram to a $6M+ contract this offseason.  Byram's defensive play has been subpar.

Krebs was a key component in the Eichel trade. He has no goals this season, and only 3 points in 16 games.

Kesselring, a key part of the Peterka trade, has no points in 7 games.

Adams traded for Norris, who's injury history should be written on a literal red flag.  Unsurprisingly Norris has only played 2 periods this year.  He costs almost $8M against the cap.

Adams extended UPL for almost $5M per year.  UPL is being outplayed by a rookie and journeyman.

Tuch, Thompson, and Power need to step up, but the team is also weighed down by the  almost $25M of cap space Adams has wasted on non-contributing roster additions.

There are no excuses for Adams. 

 

[PerreaultForever]

10 hours ago, Demoted said:

Doesn't matter what he says though, it's not an excuse. He can say the sky is falling and it wouldn't matter.

Kevin Adams needs to lose his job and nothing is going to stop people from wanting that. The entire team can be injured and it doesn't matter. 

Oh I'm 100% in agreement with that. I'm just predicting what he will say, not agreeing with it. 

I wanted him gone last year. I never wanted him hired. I can't wait to see him go. 

[mjd1001]

42 minutes ago, jad1 said:

The Sabres do have injuries, but they are made worse because Adams has built a roster of costly non-contributors, who have not stepped up.

 

Tuch, Thompson, and Power need to step up, but the team is also weighed down by the  almost $25M of cap space Adams has wasted on non-contributing roster additions.

There are no excuses for Adams. 

 

Stepping up. Yeah, injuries hurt your team, but who is, and who is not, 'stepping up' in the face of them?

On Defense, Timmins is playing decent, and Samuelsson is having his best year in a while. Everyone else? They have all played bad, I'd say worst than last year (Power, for all that he takes from the fans, he is the CLOSEST beyond Timmons and Samuelsson to playing well, but its still not good enough.)  Bryam, Dahlin, Kesserling, all have played bad at times.

Forwards: Doan, Benson, Kozak and Dunne look like the only guys out there who even care what they look like. EVERYONE else has been more disappointing instead of 'stepping up.

So to me the guys who look like they care, the guys who are outperforming what you expect of them, are Timmins, Samuelsson, Doan, Benson, Kozak and Dunn.  Thats it.  You would think a handful of the other guys would show you something, noticable, some effort, some play beyond what they have shown in the past. But I haven't seen it.

I really think Tage is one of the top goal scorers in the league and have defended him from criticism on this board many times, but he's not doing it this year.  Tuch?  I'm more on the trade him rather than sign him side of things now.

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, LTS said:

A reason is a justifiable explanation for an outcome.  An excuse is an unjustifiable reason.  Injuries are real.

The question we need to debate is whether the players being lost to injury would change the outcomes of the results on the ice. In other words, do the injuries justify the losses?

If we believe they do, then it's a reason and we should accept that the CURRENT situation is an outcome of the injuries.

Now, the OVERALL situation and a discussion on Kevyn Adams as a GM.. that's another story.  He's hopeless and even if the injuries are seen as a reason for the outcome I would still argue that the team isn't where it needs to be and hasn't been.

Except, the outcome is a self fulfilling prophecy if you build a team around the continually injured and a bunch of kids. This is why it was easy to predict back in the summer. It may be slightly worse than expected but it's not unexpected. 

We have one outlier in Dahlin leave of absence. That could not have been predicted. 

Norris, Greenway, Zucker, are all players with continual injury history. 

Danforth is whatever as 4th liners are a dime a dozen. Kozak was the same. 

So you have injuries to Benson and Kulich. Every team is missing some guys. Tkachuks in Florida and Ottawa for example. Lindholm and Mittelstadt in Boston. Toronto might have just lost Matthews. Competition has injuries too. 

It's a lame but predictable excuse.