Adams: we have an elite D corps

[GASabresIUFAN]

11 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Power is definitely baring the brunt of baby/bath water philosophy right now - almost shocking after 14 years of this 

He is the target because he is  a former top over all pick, carries a big contract and hasn't improved at all in 3 years in the NHL.  In many ways he is a worse player today than as a rookie.  The Athletic gave him a negative -3.5 mill contract deficit last season.  That basically means we are paying 8.35 for a 4.85 player.  Analytics aside, his game doesn't pass the eye test and Byram is a similar but better player for less money making Power a luxury we don't need to keep.

Could Power change the narrative this season?  Sure he could, but if we go through another season where he is inept defensively, these calls to move on are going to get louder and more frequent.

 

[Thorny]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He is the target because he is  a former top over all pick, carries a big contract and hasn't improved at all in 3 years in the NHL.  In many ways he is a worse player today than as a rookie.  The Athletic gave him a negative -3.5 mill contract deficit last season.  That basically means we are paying 8.35 for a 4.85 player.  Analytics aside, his game doesn't pass the eye test and Byram is a similar but better player for less money making Power a luxury we don't need to keep.

Could Power change the narrative this season?  Sure he could, but if we go through another season where he is inept defensively, these calls to move on are going to get louder and more frequent.

 

This reminds me a lot of Reinhart tbh, I remember quite stupidly arguing that he “wasn’t even an nhl player” sometime in his 3rd year, or 4th year post draft, the season where he utterly flipped the switch after that outdoor game in some sweet jerseys 

We’ve been in this spot for so long and been spoiled by the like of Eichel and Dahlin, picking so many elite, all star level players (that we’ve failed to properly supplement) that we’ve forgotten a longer development curve is often the case, especially with D. Even top picks in a weak draft 

[PerreaultForever]

Too many "elite" players, not enough warriors. 

[SabreFinn]

17 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Too many "elite" players, not enough warriors. 

It is embarassing that Adams has stayed this long and still hasn't succeeded in building a well balanced roster. 

[PerreaultForever]

33 minutes ago, SabreFinn said:

It is embarassing that Adams has stayed this long and still hasn't succeeded in building a well balanced roster. 

Exactly. When he tore it down and removed the elite stars he had the moment to change the culture and change the make up of how they build the roster but they didn't. Still open ice speed and puck moving D. (more to it than that obviously, but you get the general idea). 

@Thorny gives me the big red X cause he doesn't like the idea but he has no point to counter it. You can of course argue that any team could use more "talent" but that's simply not how you construct a TEAM in reality. I mean Florida's 4th line was all waiver wire pick ups. We could have had all of them I think. As an example. 

I think it's gotten to the point where players here don't and won't buy in and they just don't care about the jersey. They just go for their individual stats and wait for their exit strategy. Many of them anyway. 

[SabreFinn]

17 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

Exactly. When he tore it down and removed the elite stars he had the moment to change the culture and change the make up of how they build the roster but they didn't. Still open ice speed and puck moving D. (more to it than that obviously, but you get the general idea). 

@Thorny gives me the big red X cause he doesn't like the idea but he has no point to counter it. You can of course argue that any team could use more "talent" but that's simply not how you construct a TEAM in reality. I mean Florida's 4th line was all waiver wire pick ups. We could have had all of them I think. As an example. 

I think it's gotten to the point where players here don't and won't buy in and they just don't care about the jersey. They just go for their individual stats and wait for their exit strategy. Many of them anyway. 

I think the talent (read Kid line) are more willingto pay attention to details If their position on the team is treatened. Better coaching might have helped also ofcourse.