Byram has packed up his house and will be moved: After the Whistle

[dudacek]

1 minute ago, Ogelthorpe said:

I would say that proves my point other than one or two instances.

Another one is Lehner acquired for a 1st, no return.

The McNabb deal is a perennial favourite around here.

I haven’t completely tracked the Kane deal trade tree, but I don’t think the Sabres have any assets left from that one.

Botterill was a disaster at managing assets and Adams squandered a lot of what was left in the Bubble.

Yes, the McCabe injury was a stroke of bad luck, and Botterill set him up for failure, but managing to turn Ullmark, McCabe and Montour into exactly nothing is a huge black mark against Adams that no one ever talks about.

 

[shrader]

40 minutes ago, dudacek said:

This was interesting to look into:

• Cozens acquired for pick 7, flipped for Josh Norris
• Skinner acquired for basically a 2nd, no return
• Jokiharju acquired for Nylander, flipped for a 2026 4th
• Savoie acquired for pick 9,  flipped for McLeod
• Mittelstadt acquired for pick 8, flipped for Byram
• Lyubushkin acquired for nothing, flipped for a 2025 4th
• Erik Johnson acquired for nothing, flipped for Simon-Pierre Brunet and Ryerson Leenders
• Colin Miller acquired for a 2nd and a 5th, no return
• Sam Reinhart acquired for 2nd overall pick, flipped for Kulich and Levi
• Jack Eichel acquired for 2nd overall pick, flipped for Tuch, Krebs, Östlund and Greenway
• Taylor Hall acquired for nothing, flipped for Bjork and Kisakov
• Brandon montour acquired for a 1st-rounder (Brayden Tracey) and Brendan Guhle, flipped for Stiven Sardarian
• Eric Staal acquired for Marcus Johansson, flipped for Riley Stillman and Viljami Marjala
• Jake McCabe acquired for a 2nd, no return
• Linus Ullmark acquired for a 6th, no return
• Connor Sheary acquired for a 4th (Mattias Marcelli) flipped for Dominik Kahun
• Pominville and Scandella acquired for Foligno and Ennis, flipped for Michael Frolik
• Ryan O’Rielly acquired for Grigorenko, Zadorov, Compher and Jeremy Roy, flipped effectively for Thompson, Johnson and Colin Miller

The most notable thing to me here was the amount of assets frittered away by Botterill and during Adams first year.

Eichel, Reinhart, Ullmark, O’Reilly, Montour, McCabe, Foligno, Hall, Johansson, and Miller are all playing in the NHL right now.

In exchange the Sabres have Thompson, Tuch, Greenway, Krebs and Kulich.

This type of breakdown ignores the amount of time the players spent here. Depending on how many miles you put on the tires, of course the return is going to be less. 

[sabremike]

42 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Another one is Lehner acquired for a 1st, no return.

The McNabb deal is a perennial favourite around here.

I haven’t completely tracked the Kane deal trade tree, but I don’t think the Sabres have any assets left from that one.

Botterill was a disaster at managing assets and Adams squandered a lot of what was left in the Bubble.

Yes, the McCabe injury was a stroke of bad luck, and Botterill set him up for failure, but managing to turn Ullmark, McCabe and Montour into exactly nothing is a huge black mark against Adams that no one ever talks about.

 

The McCabe thing was incredible as he was injured attempting an absolutely filthy hit that if landed probably would've caused the Devils player to be seriously injured.

[Drag0nDan]

3 hours ago, dudacek said:

I think Cuylle and Schneider simply do not have Peterka’s upside.

Those two for Peterka and cap space is more fair value. 

Maybe add Clifton and a prospect for Kreider?

Miller is the guy the Rangers will be shopping, rather than Schneider.

Ive never seen a trade like this, but what do we think of Miller and Schnieder for Samuelsson and Byram?

Probably would need a prospect on buffalo's side, and would require them dumping some money somehow.  

[Archie Lee]

15 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said:

Probably would need a prospect on buffalo's side, and would require them dumping some money somehow.  

I haven’t seen any rumours, but I assume the Rangers are going to try and move Kreider. They found ways to move Goodrow and Trouba. Their cap issues would mostly be resolved if they can trade Kreider. 

[dudacek]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

This type of breakdown ignores the amount of time the players spent here. Depending on how many miles you put on the tires, of course the return is going to be less. 

Definitely is relevant.

[SabreFinn]

59 minutes ago, Archie Lee said:

I haven’t seen any rumours, but I assume the Rangers are going to try and move Kreider. They found ways to move Goodrow and Trouba. Their cap issues would mostly be resolved if they can trade Kreider. 

There was rumours telling that at some point during the season, but I also remember hearing Kreider had some injury issues this season. Hard to know what to believe. A deal with both Kreider and Schneider could be a interesting package if Rangers really want Kreider gone.

[LGR4GM]

I'm still on the Noah Dobson train. 

 

[matter2003]

Pack it up, pack it in...

Let me begin...

 

Edited 2 hours ago by matter2003