That Aud Smell Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I read it as O'Reilly following Dan to a T, perhaps to his own detriment. My sense too. Also: I still think ROR is playing through a sports hernia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 My problem with D's system has nothing to do with preferring dumping over carrying. It's the lack of puck support for any puck carrier in any portion of the ice, abandoned in favor of a fevered sprint into the corners of the other end, the puck getting there via stretch pass that is usually missed and therefore chipped in behind the defense. There is no full team transition with structure, and it shows when we look worse at passing through transition than almost any team we play, ever. It's not how this team is told to get down the ice, it's not how they've spent the past 140 games and practices in between playing. And when we play against coaches and teams that know how to snuff out the puck carrier or the stretch option and transition the puck the other way, we predictably go 0-20 against them on the season, with no idea how to adjust. I'm still looking for the article, but when defensemen like Lovejoy had trouble with this in Pittsburgh, and Bylsma was asked about it, he literally responded with "The pass just needs to be made faster and with better accuracy, then." He's convinced what he does will work. And when our players "openly disrespect the coach" and ignore what he's saying, after doing this and scoring at historically bad rates for two months, and proceed to be 11th in scoring for a stretch, it just makes me laugh. Great post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 My sense too. Also: I still think ROR is playing through a sports hernia. You won't give up on this will you :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 You won't give up on this will you :P I know - it's gotten a little entrenched. I dunno. He just doesn't seem like the same player we saw after he first arrived. I infrequently notice dynamic or quick play from him, and his skating just seems laboured. Maybe I am seeing what I want to see, though. If there isn't an injury, then he's just not playing as well as he had been playing. I also wonder if his basic advanced stats would bear this out. Yeah - eff me. Looks like I need to reevaluate my take on ROR. And probably my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I know - it's gotten a little entrenched. I dunno. He just doesn't seem like the same player we saw after he first arrived. I infrequently notice dynamic or quick play from him, and his skating just seems laboured. Maybe I am seeing what I want to see, though. If there isn't an injury, then he's just not playing as well as he had been playing. I also wonder if his basic advanced stats would bear this out. rorcompare.PNG Yeah - eff me. Looks like I need to reevaluate my take on ROR. And probably my life. No I'm just messing around. The eye test looks like he hasn't been the same this year as last. Although those stats show otherwise :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I know - it's gotten a little entrenched. I dunno. He just doesn't seem like the same player we saw after he first arrived. I infrequently notice dynamic or quick play from him, and his skating just seems laboured. Maybe I am seeing what I want to see, though. If there isn't an injury, then he's just not playing as well as he had been playing. I also wonder if his basic advanced stats would bear this out. rorcompare.PNG Yeah - eff me. Looks like I need to reevaluate my take on ROR. And probably my life. Sports hernia is the new marfans, eh? :p I just think he's being run into the ground with minutes. I'd like to see his ice time cut back by about a minute and a half per game. His highest per game average in Colorado was 19:49. Last season here he was at 21:44, and this year he's at 21:38. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 No I'm just messing around. The eye test looks like he hasn't been the same this year as last. Although those stats show otherwise :blink: Oh, mess away. I need to have my assumptions and biases challenged. It's especially helpful when it's done with a light touch. My eye test says the same, but ... those basic fancy stats suggest precisely the opposite. Is that just the Okposo effect? I dunno. I'm stumped. Sports hernia is the new marfans, eh? :P I just think he's being run into the ground with minutes. I'd like to see his ice time cut back by about a minute and a half per game. His highest per game average in Colorado was 19:49. Last season here he was at 21:44, and this year he's at 21:38. Fair. I feel like we know he's being over-used. But what of his basic #fancystats being SO much better this season than last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Fair. I feel like we know he's being over-used. But what of his basic #fancystats being SO much better this season than last? He's spending most of his time with Okposo rather than McGinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 He's spending most of his time with Okposo rather than McGinn. Slow you roll, son -- Bill Hoppe chirped the Sabres for not re-signing McGinn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 Slow you roll, son -- Bill Hoppe chirped the Sabres for not re-signing McGinn! I saw. I laughed. Hoppe's obsession with McGinn is downright odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 28, 2017 Report Share Posted February 28, 2017 I saw. I laughed. Hoppe's obsession with McGinn is downright odd. Especially coming like 2 days after he was healthy-scratched from what is probably the worst roster in the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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