Thorny Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 Fifth vet is Colaiacovo - one-way contract, except for a brief rehab stint, hasn't played in the minors for years. I think Donovan also has a one-way deal too, but he isn't a proven NHLer. Didn't even think of Colaiacovo for some reason. I wonder if both of those guys would clear waivers. How do waivers work during training camp/pre-season anyways, I always forget. If Carlo and Donovan don't make the team out of camp, do they have to still clear waivers to head to Rochester to start the season there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 If you've lost your waiver exemption (usually after three years pro) you have to clear waivers before being assigned to the minors. A team cannot have more than 23 players on the NHL roster. Not typically a huge risk with most fringe players because the team placing the waiver claim would have to think a Varone or Cal O'Reilly is a significant upgrade over their NHL guys. It's more of a gamble with a guy like Donovan, who may still be young enough to have some upside, or Colaiacovo who might be an upgrade on some team's number six guy. It's always tough to lose depth, especially on defence. If the Sabres keep Reinhart, Risto, McCabe and Eichel, that means two of Colaiacovo, Donovan, Weber, Legwand, McCormick or Deslauriers would likely be waived, meaning guys like Ruhwedel, Varone and O'Reilly could become your primary injury replacements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) If you've lost your waiver exemption (usually after three years pro) you have to clear waivers before being assigned to the minors. A team cannot have more than 23 players on the NHL roster. Not typically a huge risk with most fringe players because the team placing the waiver claim would have to think a Varone or Cal O'Reilly is a significant upgrade over their NHL guys. It's more of a gamble with a guy like Donovan, who may still be young enough to have some upside, or Colaiacovo who might be an upgrade on some team's number six guy. It's always tough to lose depth, especially on defence. If the Sabres keep Reinhart, Risto, McCabe and Eichel, that means two of Colaiacovo, Donovan, Weber, Legwand, McCormick or Deslauriers would likely be waived, meaning guys like Ruhwedel, Varone and O'Reilly could become your primary injury replacements. The thing I am a little unclear on though is how things are before the regular season actually starts. The Sabres will have a load of players in training camp destined for the AHL, like Varone, Ruhwedel, etc. So if I am understanding correctly, those guys will still have their waiver exemption, not having played 3 full pro seasons? I understand how waivers work in season and the 23 man limit and all that, was just curious if there were different "assigning to minors" rules before the season actually started. Anyways, I don't think McCabe is going to make the team out of camp. If I had to guess, I also think that Colaiacovo will be the odd man out, sent back to play in Rochester. (assuming he clears waivers, I suppose) Edited September 12, 2015 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) Varone is waiver eligible. I'd have to check on Ruhwedel I think he is a special case and is also eligible because he signed as a free agent late in the season. To your main point, teams don't have to waive anybody until the official cutdown day a couple days before the start of the season but they can and do. sometimes it's safer to do it early. I think Franson means McCabe and Donovan go down. Edited September 12, 2015 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 The thing I am a little unclear on though is how things are before the regular season actually starts. The Sabres will have a load of players in training camp destined for the AHL, like Varone, Ruhwedel, etc. So if I am understanding correctly, those guys will still have their waiver exemption, not having played 3 full pro seasons? I understand how waivers work in season and the 23 man limit and all that, was just curious if there were different "assigning to minors" rules before the season actually started. Anyways, I don't think McCabe is going to make the team out of camp. If I had to guess, I also think that Colaiacovo will be the odd man out, sent back to play in Rochester. (assuming he clears waivers, I suppose) The main differences between preseason and regular season is no upper limit on roster size (neglecting the 50 pro contract limit) and you can be over the cap by 10%. Guys that get sent down to Ra-cha-cha that need to clear waivers in-season still need to clear them in pre-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Varone is waiver eligible. I'd have to check on Ruhwedel I think he is a special case and is also eligible because he signed as a free agent late in the season. To your main point, teams don't have to waive anybody until the official cutdown day a couple days before the start of the season but they can and do. sometimes it's safer to do it early. I think Franson means McCabe and Donovan go down. The main differences between preseason and regular season is no upper limit on roster size (neglecting the 50 pro contract limit) and you can be over the cap by 10%. Guys that get sent down to Ra-cha-cha that need to clear waivers in-season still need to clear them in pre-season. Alrighty, thanks, all makes sense to me now! I suppose the 7th d-man sport will be down to Donovan or Colaiacovo. Donovan was known as a PP guy, correct? So you could be right dudacek in that the arrival of Franson, who himself is known as a PP guy could mean the last spot goes to Carlo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 Hate to see that happen to Paille, but it's pretty funny that McCabe got kicked out of the game for that hit, haha. I cringe every time I see it, simply because of that call. I have no idea how they could have possibly justified kicking him out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 I cringe every time I see it, simply because of that call. I have no idea how they could have possibly justified kicking him out of the game. It still pisses me off. I got in the dumbest argument with the (Bruins fan) captain of my hockey team over that call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 14, 2015 Report Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) It still pisses me off. I got in the dumbest argument with the (Bruins fan) captain of my hockey team over that call. I feel like even the most biased fan should be able to see that hit for what it was: A very regular, commonplace hit. There's literally nothing going on there. Edited September 14, 2015 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 Pretty interesting fancystats piece on Franson: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/why-cody-franson-is-the-nhls-best-bargain-player/ The problem is that because the perception of Franson is he’s an offensive defenceman who needs defensive sheltering, this drop in production (four points in 23 games with Nashville) had many thinking it was a “bad” trade for the Predators. But this is far from reality. Franson's possession impacts were still very solid and he actually led all Nashville defencemen in shot attempt percentage while on the ice after his arrival. Yet, despite being a reliable contributor on the blueline, his drop in offence led to him failing the eye test. Eventually, Franson and the Buffalo Sabres agreed on a two-year deal with a $3.325 million cap hit. That’s only a $25,000 raise for a UFA top-four defender with size who ranks eighth in road game hits and 26th in defenceman scoring over the past three seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotentPowerPlay22 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 I don't have time to search for the Cody Franson thread, but I read this analytics article about him and it is very interesting for Sabres fans. http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/why-cody-franson-is-the-nhls-best-bargain-player/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7+6=13 Posted September 25, 2015 Report Share Posted September 25, 2015 This guy definitely spent a lot of time specifically on Franson. Interesting read for sure. If this information translates it says two things, one is obviously we are getting great value and two Murray is on top of his game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted September 26, 2015 Report Share Posted September 26, 2015 Y'all gonna let this stand? PS PPP22 thanks for the read. And the priceless video clip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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