IvanPutski Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Ivan believes he would be a nice top 6 player for the Sabres. Ivan also wonders if he might follow Babcock.... Sto Lat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Until we really know where we stand next season, I have no interest is giving up high draft picks to sign RFA's to offer sheets. I know the roster will be better, but we've finished in last place the past 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) I highly doubt Murray would be stupid enough to make an RFA offer giving up first round picks and other assets. Edited May 12, 2015 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I highly doubt Murray would be stupid enough to make an RFA offer giving up first round picks and other assets. The money bar for first round pick compensation is relatively low so any RFA we'd theoretically sign for less than that amount would almost certainly be matched, which makes it all kind of a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Malooga Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'd give up a 1st round pick next year for Tarasenko or Toffoli, possibly Saad. Unless Murray expects to be a lottery team, I would definitely look into getting proven players for next year's draft picks. Giving up a 1st round pick for Tarasenko would be "stupid?" Lol, come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'd give up a 1st round pick next year for Tarasenko or Toffoli, possibly Saad. Unless Murray expects to be a lottery team, I would definitely look into getting proven players for next year's draft picks. Giving up a 1st round pick for Tarasenko would be "stupid?" Lol, come on. What if it end up being the first pick overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted May 13, 2015 Report Share Posted May 13, 2015 I'd give up a 1st round pick next year for Tarasenko or Toffoli, possibly Saad.Unless Murray expects to be a lottery team, I would definitely look into getting proven players for next year's draft picks.Giving up a 1st round pick for Tarasenko would be "stupid?" Lol, come on. No GM expects to be a lottery team, just ask Peter Chiarelli or Dean Lombardi. With the top three picks being available by lottery next year I would hesitate on offer sheets that would cost multiple first rounders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 What if it end up being the first pick overall. Giving up our 2016 first to get Tarasenko would include giving up at best a 20% chance of Auston Matthews. I would trade a first round pick, that entails at best a 20% chance at being first overall (if we come in last again) to acquire a player of Tarasenko's caliber. However, looking at the compensation chart, the Blues would very likely match the number we would offer, that would result in only a first and third being given up as compensation. If I am reading it correctly, the dollar amount required to get Tarasenko would likely result in the compensation we would have to give up being: two firsts, a second and a third. I would not make that offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) For the record the compensation chart this year should be somewhere in the range of: $8.6M and above: 4 firsts $7M to $8.5M: 2 firsts, a 2nd and a 3rd $5.3M to $6.9M: 1st, 2nd and a 3rd $3.5M to $5.2M: 1st and 3rd $1.8M to $3.4M: 2nd $1.3M to $1.7M: 3rd $1.2M and below: none Remember it's the total divided by five... NOT the AAV (unless the AAV is greater than the total divided by five) Edited May 14, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Giving up our 2016 first to get Tarasenko would include giving up at best a 20% chance of Auston Matthews. I would trade a first round pick, that entails at best a 20% chance at being first overall (if we come in last again) to acquire a player of Tarasenko's caliber. However, looking at the compensation chart, the Blues would very likely match the number we would offer, that would result in only a first and third being given up as compensation. If I am reading it correctly, the dollar amount required to get Tarasenko would likely result in the compensation we would have to give up being: two firsts, a second and a third. I would not make that offer. Exactly. People always make the so and so if worth a 1st argument without actually looking at the compensation chart. I'm sure just about any GM would be willing to give up a 1st round pick for Tarasenko but the Blues would rather keep him at the price that would equal that compensation. The only way to really get a quality RFA that the current GM wouldn't match is to severely overpay and then the compensation is much higher than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Nykquist is a sniper. I really like his game. It depends on the price to get him. But on the other hand you can't talk about players like they're chips in a poker game. They like living in some cities and despise other cities. My feeling is he's probably happy with the chemistry on the Wings and although there's some hope with the Sabres, you can't eat hope for breakfast. Losing sucks and I just don't see too many good people wanting to come here until the ball is already rolling and the Sabres actually have a winning record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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