fan2456 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Firstly, i agree about separating Quinn/non-quinn. But it appears that for whatever reaso, Darcy has gotten better at drafting top talent (has our head scout changed?) We had about a decade of mediocre picks in the first and second round. Had we had even one become a star we would be in a nicer position. Even Vanek is not top flight talent. I think recently he has proved his worth as a GM. Boyes - this seemed like a good trade at the time, a 2nd for a player who looked like he just needed a change of scene, but hind sight showed us it was a Cheechoo thing. Erhoff - Can't flaw this in my opinion Leino - Seems like a stupid decision, but i'd give him another year as maybe he just needed to settle in? Regehr and a 2nd - absolute steal Stafford - Meh, he showed potential to earn that contract down the stretch, again too early to completely throw in the towel Goose 1st - Absolute steal Coho/Kass - Seems like a good trade to me, i am not sure Kass will become the power forward he could, but what do i know - plus we needed depth at centre. Coho is also a solid two way guy, something i like in my team (hence why i want Hecht back for like $1.5mil) Sulzer/Grag - Damn good trade That is a pretty good recent record Boyes- On a team desperate for grit at the time this was on Boyes resume from juniors: 2000–01: OHL William Hanley Trophy (Most Gentlemanly Player) Regehr- love his style, wish he was five years younger and still in his prime, he is showing signs of slowing down, Darcy deserves credit for short contract Stafford's been around a long time and lacks consistency in a big way. Question his grit, and both these things were in play before signing Grags was a hot commodity at this time last year in this town after playoffs and bombed this year, jury out on Sulzer after short stay. Gerbe- extension? at least it didn't cost much Hecht- should retire for his own health Rest of your assessment, I would agree with. None of these moves improved our size or grit.( Regehr yes, over-all, no) In all, it makes Darcy average or a little above imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Boyes- On a team desperate for grit at the time this was on Boyes resume from juniors: 2000–01: OHL William Hanley Trophy (Most Gentlemanly Player) Actually, on a team desperate for offense, they added a player who topped the 40 goal mark in recent years. That was the thought with Boyes. Just because they needed grit doesn't mean that's the only type of player they could add to the roster. The error in adding Boyes had absolutely nothing to do with his grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 No-one will take Leino after his season and those comments. We are officially stuck with him. Maybe Calgary would take him in a package deal for Iginla. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan2456 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Actually, on a team desperate for offense, they added a player who topped the 40 goal mark in recent years. That was the thought with Boyes. Just because they needed grit doesn't mean that's the only type of player they could add to the roster. The error in adding Boyes had absolutely nothing to do with his grit. Actually, I think his grit is a factor in his scoring. He doesn't like to go into the tough places on the ice to score, and the league has evolved, making that a necessity. He didn't have to score like that with regularity a few years ago when he got those numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Actually, I think his grit is a factor in his scoring. He doesn't like to go into the tough places on the ice to score, and the league has devolved back, making that a necessity. He didn't have to score like that with regularity a few years ago when he got those numbers. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan2456 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 fixed Thank you! I should have said regressed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Actually, I think his grit is a factor in his scoring. He doesn't like to go into the tough places on the ice to score, and the league has evolved, making that a necessity. He didn't have to score like that with regularity a few years ago when he got those numbers. I credit his high scoring seasons to the fact that Keith Tkachuk was his center. Also, the tough places on the ice aren't the parts you score from, so I don't really understand the point you're trying to make there. EDIT: I also credit his high scoring seasons to magic after watching him play this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 in 2007-2008 Boyes was granted a record 85 penalty shots. That's how he got to 43 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 in 2007-2008 Boyes was granted a record 85 penalty shots. That's how he got to 43 goals. He got more than one a game????? That is insane, plus you earn a penalty shot, so he may have got those goal totals had he not been interfered with. Whatever he was doing to get that many, he was doing right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 in 2007-2008 Boyes was granted a record 85 penalty shots. That's how he got to 43 goals. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazielSabre Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 I credit his high scoring seasons to the fact that Keith Tkachuk was his center. Also, the tough places on the ice aren't the parts you score from, so I don't really understand the point you're trying to make there. EDIT: I also credit his high scoring seasons to magic after watching him play this season. Look at the players who thrived after the lockout, he was merely one of those. There are precious few who's success has carried on now that the game has changed again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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