neverenough Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 So where did all the trade miller for a cheeseburger and have enroth play 82 games and then go 16-0 in the playoffs whiners go? I was one that was pretty down on miller, Cheeseburger? Maybe cheese fries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Is there a website that makes this stuff up about Leino? Leino is not a setup man. He's not a center. He a third or fourth line winger with little offensive ability and zero grit or toughness. There is no reason he should be in the lineup over Foligno or whomever is next in line in the ROC. I can say that Leino does have a knack for getting the puck back in tight situations. He might not be everything you want in a player; however, it does seem like he is progressively making better decisions with the puck, and his defensive play has been getting better. I have to admit, he is not an overly physical guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverenough Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I would like to see the Sabres send Grags packing. Anyway we can sign Chris Chelios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyhound Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I would like to see the Sabres send Grags packing. Anyway we can sign Chris Chelios? I recently saw that Jerry Korab was back in town. Maybe we can call up Jim Schoenfeld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormin Norman Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 15 minutes of the Columbus Blue Jackets' 30 minute year-end DVD. If you didn't make me laugh, I'd take this stuff way too seriously! Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 If you didn't make me laugh, I'd take this stuff way too seriously! Good one! If there's one good thing about the team playing like crap, it's that the board gets funnier and I use the + sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannustyrannus Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I heard the Bandits are there for the tent party tonight, maybe one of them could fill in. Any one of them should be tougher than any one of the Sabres. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 The Buffalo News seems to confirm that it's Szczechura. Am I alone in wondering who the ###### is Szczechura? http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=78369 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Dryden Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 You are discounting any possible return in a Miller trade. The funny thing about stars is that there are many of them and new ones are found everyday. Another thing is that stars bring in more of a return than the dregs of the roster. If Miller can bring in pieces to the puzzle that bring the team closer to a Stanley Cup shouldn't that trade be made? Given how discerning you are, why would anyone give us anything good for our "garbage." Are you assuming other teams' GMs are stupid? Or is Regier so shrewd that he can get the necessary pieces for a Stanley Cup with soft useless players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 So where did all the trade miller for a cheeseburger and have enroth play 82 games and then go 16-0 in the playoffs whiners go? You could still make an argument that Enroth has been our best player this year. Maybe second best after Vanek, and certainly top 3 when you add Pominville into the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 You could still make an argument that Enroth has been our best player this year. Maybe second best after Vanek, and certainly top 3 when you add Pominville into the mix. Not in any order... Vanek Pominville Gerbe Enroth Regehr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegs4mayor Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I honestly hope these ahl guys bring some much needed energy tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itbeatswalking Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 You are discounting any possible return in a Miller trade. The funny thing about stars is that there are many of them and new ones are found everyday. Another thing is that stars bring in more of a return than the dregs of the roster. If Miller can bring in pieces to the puzzle that bring the team closer to a Stanley Cup shouldn't that trade be made? Ok, so we have an amazing goalie, arguably the best in the world, he has a couple bad games bc our defenseman have no chemistry yet and you want a trade? Give me a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Ok, so we have an amazing goalie, arguably the best in the world, he has a couple bad games bc our defenseman have no chemistry yet and you want a trade? Give me a break. arguably the best in the world? it always baffles me when people say that. haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROC Sabres Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 arguably the best in the world? it always baffles me when people say that. haha It's a relative term. Kinda like the worlds strongest man competitions. I'm sure there are stronger people, just not stronger at lifting boulders or pulling trucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreInFla Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Why is it a secret which forward is injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegs4mayor Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Why is it a secret which forward is injured? My guess is because its either Vanek or pommers and ruff doesn't like to show his cards before the flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreInFla Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 My guess is because its either Vanek or pommers and ruff doesn't like to show his cards before the flop. I think we saw the flop last night. Gotta be Pommers, that hit on Vanek at the end was as bad as some have suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 It's a relative term. Kinda like the worlds strongest man competitions. I'm sure there are stronger people, just not stronger at lifting boulders or pulling trucks. haha well yea i know that. but i think there is some pretty stiff competition out there for the title of "world's best". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegs4mayor Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Yah... I hope last night made this team relize that you have to work hard to get anything done. I'm not off the train yet... after last season and the turn around how could I be. Go sabres! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreInFla Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Stafford out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Ok, so we have an amazing goalie, arguably the best in the world, he has a couple bad games bc our defenseman have no chemistry yet and you want a trade? Give me a break. The argument for trading Miller is, and always has been, that we could get something significant in return and not experience much of a drop off by switching to Enroth. I get why some people wouldn't buy into that but it does seem possible that it would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 It's a relative term. Kinda like the worlds strongest man competitions. I'm sure there are stronger people, just not stronger at lifting boulders or pulling trucks. haha well yea i know that. but i think there is some pretty stiff competition out there for the title of "world's best". The difference is that strength can be measured a number of ways. How good you are at goaltending really can't. There are too many variables to call anyone the best at the position. Certainly some are better than others, and Miller is definitely a "Top 10," but in my opinion it's really a toss up on any given night as to who is the best. So should we really pay a goaltender 6 million dollars to be marginally better (and on some nights worse) than goaltenders that get say, 3 million? It's a weird position to play. Any goalie can steal a game on any given night. I'm not saying I WANT to trade Miller, but if we did and got a Tavares or Duchene in return, I think I'd be happy with it. And just to kind of defend my statement, I know that it's kind of the same deal for forwards -- aside from Crosby, it's really hard to call anyone else the "best." I don't know who would win the "better player" argument between Dastyuk and Patrick Kane or something. But I guess the difference is that goalies don't help your team score goals, but all skaters can contribute on defense in one way or another. Your goalie could play an amazing game but if your offense can't score, it means nothing. But if your offense scores 4-5 goals a night and does a solid job defensively, your middle-of-the-pack goalie can probably get the job done most nights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 The difference is that strength can be measured a number of ways. How good you are at goaltending really can't. There are too many variables to call anyone the best at the position. Certainly some are better than others, and Miller is definitely a "Top 10," but in my opinion it's really a toss up on any given night as to who is the best. So should we really pay a goaltender 6 million dollars to be marginally better (and on some nights worse) than goaltenders that get say, 3 million? It's a weird position to play. Any goalie can steal a game on any given night. I'm not saying I WANT to trade Miller, but if we did and got a Tavares or Duchene in return, I think I'd be happy with it. And just to kind of defend my statement, I know that it's kind of the same deal for forwards -- aside from Crosby, it's really hard to call anyone else the "best." I don't know who would win the "better player" argument between Dastyuk and Patrick Kane or something. But I guess the difference is that goalies don't help your team score goals, but all skaters can contribute on defense in one way or another. Your goalie could play an amazing game but if your offense can't score, it means nothing. But if your offense scores 4-5 goals a night and does a solid job defensively, your middle-of-the-pack goalie can probably get the job done most nights. Agreed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresnutinphoenix Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 If we lose a ton of ground in regards to the playoffs with all these injuries, do the Sabres deal some of the softies in the lineup...My only untouchables are: Vanek, Pominville, Regher, Myers (only based on his potential), Ehroff (Based on potential again), Luke Adam and Enroth...After that - deal for players who have both talent and heart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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