X. Benedict Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Looking like Parise is going to arbitration. That's going to put NJ in a pickle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 That's going to put NJ in a pickle. What is the projected number on the top side? Is it over 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 What is the projected number on the top side? Is it over 7? Actually - it is going to be club selected Arby...which means teams can't offer him RFA deals ....he's pretty much forced to deal with NJ, or go through the arbitration process. Interesting move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 That's going to put NJ in a pickle. Same as Kaleta last year. The Sabres elected to take him to arbitration. A bit different here. Salary is much higher. NJD have no walk-away rights. Of course they could trade him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Same as Kaleta last year. The Sabres elected to take him to arbitration. A bit different here. Salary is much higher. NJD have no walk-away rights. Of course they could trade him... if we could get parise for a 1 year deal or something along those lines (aka arbitration than traded) I would take him, I feel like Vanek is more of a center these days anyways. Lets be radical, get parise move vanek to center and then put stafford on the other wing. Put Roy and Pommers and ennis on the second line or even better trade someone and put boyes Ennis and roy on the second line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 if we could get parise for a 1 year deal or something along those lines (aka arbitration than traded) I would take him, I feel like Vanek is more of a center these days anyways. what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 what? Say that NJD get an arbitration award for Parise of w/e 5.5mil for the 1 year. We trade them for him. Then Move Vanek to center or Parise see if it works for the year while we explore other center options via trade and such. At the end of the year we can either just let Parise walk or resign him or trade him. It would buy us time. Personally id rather leave parise where he is cuz there would be 1000 what if's in this scenario Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 if we could get parise for a 1 year deal or something along those lines (aka arbitration than traded) I would take him, I feel like Vanek is more of a center these days anyways. Lets be radical, get parise move vanek to center and then put stafford on the other wing. Put Roy and Pommers and ennis on the second line or even better trade someone and put boyes Ennis and roy on the second line. Miller WTF wave...I know I've had my head in Solidworks the past 4 hours, but I didn't think my mind was that lost...your sarcasm scares me some days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 what? hahaha my thoughts exaclty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 what? Say that NJD get an arbitration award for Parise of w/e 5.5mil for the 1 year. We trade them for him. Then Move Vanek to center or Parise see if it works for the year while we explore other center options via trade and such. At the end of the year we can either just let Parise walk or resign him or trade him. It would buy us time.Personally id rather leave parise where he is cuz there would be 1000 what if's in this scenario Miller WTF wave...I know I've had my head in Solidworks the past 4 hours, but I didn't think my mind was that lost...your sarcasm scares me some days hahaha my thoughts exaclty I'm not saying its a good idea. I am just saying that is the only way I think parise works on this team right now. Obviously there are a ton of risks and problems with moving a winger to center and such but I just mentioned as a way of thinking outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm not saying its a good idea. I am just saying that is the only way I think parise works on this team right now. Obviously there are a ton of risks and problems with moving a winger to center and such but I just mentioned as a way of thinking outside the box. What about Parise Roy Vanek. Moving Van to the middle definitely isn't the only way parise works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 What about Parise Roy Vanek. Moving Van to the middle definitely isn't the only way parise works agreed, so you would like to see vanek on the right then? If thats the case we could maybe use boyes or pommers in the trade to the devils or to another team to get something the devils want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 The only way I am interested in Parise is if we have to move multiple wingers to get our #1 center. Otherwise, we have too many frickin wingers to be talking about trading for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSoldier2010 Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 agreed, so you would like to see vanek on the right then? If thats the case we could maybe use boyes or pommers in the trade to the devils or to another team to get something the devils want. Vanek has shown that he can perform well on both sides, so I'm not really partial to which side he plays. Us getting Parise seems so far fetched i won't spend much time thinking about it, but like i've noted before, one of our right wings won't be back next season. No team needs three high level right wingers while lacking elsewhere. One of Boyes, Stafford, or Pominville will not be back IMO, most likely in an attempt to get a centerman in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm not saying its a good idea. I am just saying that is the only way I think parise works on this team right now. Obviously there are a ton of risks and problems with moving a winger to center and such but I just mentioned as a way of thinking outside the box. Sometimes u just need to stop and take some ridlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Sometimes u just need to stop and take some ridlin. :clapping: seriously tho, Vanek can do alright from either side, but I don't think we would ever see him at center...ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 :clapping: seriously tho, Vanek can do alright from either side, but I don't think we would ever see him at center...ever... He's not the guy to carry the luggage through the neutral zone....or to make entries. With no Connolly, they need people who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 what? What she said...... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 He's not the guy to carry the luggage through the neutral zone....or to make entries. With no Connolly, they need people who can. Egads man....you actually think Connolly can carry the mail? Quick, someone get a doctor over here.......... :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Egads man....you actually think Connolly can carry the mail? Quick, someone get a doctor over here.......... :unsure: As much as people disliked Connolly- and I'm not suggesting he come back - he regularly had 10-15 clean entries a game which need to be replaced. Vanek can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I'm not saying its a good idea. I am just saying that is the only way I think parise works on this team right now. Obviously there are a ton of risks and problems with moving a winger to center and such but I just mentioned as a way of thinking outside the box. I'm sorry, but while reading your posts on this subject, I can't help but think of the coke zero coach "our offense will be our defense, our defense will be our offense" commercial. 'No, they'll never be able to stop us because all our centers will be wingers: Hecht, Boyes, Vanek, Ennis; we'll move the natural centers to wing: Roy, Gaustad, Adam, ???, ???; maybe we'll pull some D up to wing as well: MAG, Sekera, anyone else while we're at it? C'mon Darcy, get a couple more Lindy Ruff's on this squad and they'll never be able to figure the Sabres out.' :thumbsup: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Gerbe in net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 As much as people disliked Connolly- and I'm not suggesting he come back - he regularly had 10-15 clean entries a game which need to be replaced. Vanek can't do that. I hear you on that. Vanek needs that person to pass to him to be most effective, whether it be Roy or TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Gerbe in net Why not? I was going to go w/ Enroth as faceoff specialist, but didn't want the post to come across as piling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Gerbe in net I bet he could do it to. :clapping: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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