VansTheMans Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Didn't see this posted anywhere: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=329050 The New York Islanders acquired defenceman James Wisniewski from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for a conditional third round pick in the 2011 NHL Entry Draft. Wisniewski, 26, finished second among Ducks blue-liners in scoring and seventh on the team with a career-high 30 points (three goals, 27 assists) in 69 games last season. Wiz had actually just signed a contract with the Ducks avoiding arbitration for 1 year and $3.25 million I know some on the board were advocating we make a pitch to acquire his services. He had a break out season last year. Should we have thrown the dice and given up a third to bolster our blue line? It seems like a low risk, high reward trade on the Isles part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Didn't see this posted anywhere: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=329050 I know some on the board were advocating we make a pitch to acquire his services. He had a break out season last year. Should we have thrown the dice and given up a third to bolster our blue line? It seems like a low risk, high reward trade on the Isles part. Well unless were staying far under the cap this year something is going to be done and I hope that wasnt the Duck Buffalo is interested in I want the money going towards the top six not a third or fourth defensemen. We already have seven defensemen under contract. I want to know what the teams over the cap are going to do. Vancouver, Calgary, Chicago, New Jersey and Boston are all over the cap. Some of them significantly so, is something going to happen and who can we possibly want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well unless were staying far under the cap this year something is going to be done and I hope that wasnt the Duck Buffalo is interested in I want the money going towards the top six not a third or fourth defensemen. We already have seven defensemen under contract. I want to know what the teams over the cap are going to do. Vancouver, Calgary, Chicago, New Jersey and Boston are all over the cap. Some of them significantly so, is something going to happen and who can we possibly want. I don't know about the Devils, but the other 4 are over, and the Flyers right up there too - link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I don't know about the Devils, but the other 4 are over, and the Flyers right up there too - link i was looking at cap geek im thinking roy and a second for bieksa and burrows or raymond would be nice and would get the canucks under the cap too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Regier was too busy with the intense Dennis McCauley negotiations. :doh: Someone really needs to cancel Regier's subscription to Mediocre Hockey Player Today! :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 i was looking at cap geek im thinking roy and a second for bieksa and burrows or raymond would be nice and would get the canucks under the cap too Doesn't Sami Salo come off the books ($3.5) with his injury? I thought it was season ending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Regier was too busy with the intense Dennis McCauley negotiations. :doh: Someone really needs to cancel Regier's subscription to Mediocre Hockey Player Today! :doh: If you cancel his subscription the Sabres offseason would become pretty much non existent. What someone needs to do is tell Darcy that he is the GM of an NHL team and focus his time on trying to acquire better players for that team, instead of just looking at restocking Portland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 i was looking at cap geek im thinking roy and a second for bieksa and burrows or raymond would be nice and would get the canucks under the cap too Burrows was a huge part of Vancouver's success last year and he's signed for a cheap $2 mil contract. I don't see them letting him go, especially not for Derek Roy. Mason Raymond, on the other hand, is probably expendable to them. Granted he's only played two or three years in the league, but last year was the first time he's really showed any signs of becoming a solid offensive talent. He'd be a risk, and as much as everyone hates Derek Roy, I'm not sure if the difference in production between the two would be worth it. Also Raymond is only a $2.5 cap hit, so by taking on Roy they aren't gaining any space. And like DeLuca said, Salo is out with a season ending injury and once he is/can be placed on LTIR he'll be off the books, I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Burrows was a huge part of Vancouver's success last year and he's signed for a cheap $2 mil contract. I don't see them letting him go, especially not for Derek Roy. Mason Raymond, on the other hand, is probably expendable to them. Granted he's only played two or three years in the league, but last year was the first time he's really showed any signs of becoming a solid offensive talent. He'd be a risk, and as much as everyone hates Derek Roy, I'm not sure if the difference in production between the two would be worth it. Also Raymond is only a $2.5 cap hit, so by taking on Roy they aren't gaining any space. And like DeLuca said, Salo is out with a season ending injury and once he is/can be placed on LTIR he'll be off the books, I think? I think both players are big parts of their team and i added a second round pick from us getting bieksa so the cap stuation would be resolved. ITs true Salo would come off the books but if he comes back from injury early there screwed it might only be four months away and then they will have to be sellers come the trade deadline and they dont want that because they expect to take home a top three seedng again this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I think both players are big parts of their team and i added a second round pick from us getting bieksa so the cap stuation would be resolved. ITs true Salo would come off the books but if he comes back from injury early there screwed it might only be four months away and then they will have to be sellers come the trade deadline and they dont want that because they expect to take home a top three seedng again this year Well Derek Roy and a second round pick isn't going to be enough to get a key offensive player and a key defenseman from Vancouver, especially based on the premises that it will solve a salary cap problem that doesn't really exist. They might move some lesser pieces but if I were Vancouver I would keep my defense in tact, and IF Salo is able to come back sooner than expected, I'd worry about a trade then. If anything, I'd put our best deal together to get Kesler-- but I doubt Vancouver has any interest in losing him, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 And like DeLuca said, Salo is out with a season ending injury and once he is/can be placed on LTIR he'll be off the books, I think? He has to count against the cap before he can be placed on LTIR though. They have to get under the cap before anyone can be LTIRed, then they get the cap relief. They may be able to do that if they have enough young guys that they can temporarily send down to the AHL for a day, but I'm not very familiar with their roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well Derek Roy and a second round pick isn't going to be enough to get a key offensive player and a key defenseman from Vancouver, especially based on the premises that it will solve a salary cap problem that doesn't really exist. They might move some lesser pieces but if I were Vancouver I would keep my defense in tact, and IF Salo is able to come back sooner than expected, I'd worry about a trade then. If anything, I'd put our best deal together to get Kesler-- but I doubt Vancouver has any interest in losing him, either. They have said they need to get rid of one of there defensemen and they have actively shopped bieksa and ehrhofF? either one would be a good pick up for us i just like bieksamore and the going rate for a deensemen making around three million has been a 3rd so i think the second could get the deal done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VansTheMans Posted July 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I have to think Wis woulda been worth a 3rd round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 We have a greater need for point producting top C/RW at this time. Wisniewski does not fit that bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 We have a greater need for point producting top C/RW at this time. Wisniewski does not fit that bill. But either of the canucks would fit in that RW spot and im pretty sure each of them have some time at RW even though there listed as left wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FogBat Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well Derek Roy and a second round pick isn't going to be enough to get a key offensive player and a key defenseman from Vancouver, especially based on the premises that it will solve a salary cap problem that doesn't really exist. They might move some lesser pieces but if I were Vancouver I would keep my defense in tact, and IF Salo is able to come back sooner than expected, I'd worry about a trade then. If anything, I'd put our best deal together to get Kesler-- but I doubt Vancouver has any interest in losing him, either. I would agree with you on that. I remember when Bobby Clarke, when he was the Broad Street Beavers GM, put out on an offer sheet on him, and Vancouver matched. Needless to say, they weren't too happy with the toothless wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabretooth Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 But either of the canucks would fit in that RW spot and im pretty sure each of them have some time at RW even though there listed as left wingers I will need time to think of Salo and Bieksa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Salo is an injury machine. Don't need him,don't want him. We need an upgrade in the top 6 preferably a #1 centre. All Salo would bring to the table is an opportunity for someone else to step in and fill his roster spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 my 2 cents: if the Sabres spend some money on a good forward between now and camp, that is the preferred move and a better use of resources (which are limited). If they don't, though, then Wisniewski would have been a good addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Off Topic but does anyone know whats up with Raffe Torres? Interested to see where he ended up if anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I have to think Wis woulda been worth a 3rd round pick. What, with Butler and Sekera tearing it up the way they are? Couple of future superstars, we got here. What do we need with a guy who's actually panning out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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