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I did. Huh. Turns out this guy's pretty good at being a scumbag. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medley_Centre Here are pictures of that wreck of an Edmund Shitzgerald: http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/news/2014/03/14/scott-congel-medley-centre-irondequoit/6431965/

I've been. Get in, get some cheese steaks, get the ###### out.

Aight. Youbigchz.

I highly approve. I hope this doesn't mean he's retiring soon. That guy has sweated and bled more Blue and Gold than many of us ever could. Rip highlights: Haunting interview about the first post-9/11 game at MSG: http://video.sabres....nsole?id=186048 Dave Andeychuk on Rip's influence on his development Rick and Rip on Hasek

We may want to spawn and move posts into a new OT - Buffalo Bills Ownership / Stadium thread. This ###### could be argued for quite a while, even this far away from TBD. It's pretty separable from regular football talk. Just sayin'.

Thank you. War Memorial Stadium, built in 1937, was used for 36 years. Rich Stadium, 1973, will have been used for 43+ years. Of course saving the future of the Bills in Buffalo is supremely important, but the community has a once in a lifetime opportunity to acquire land and build a new stadium that could easily influence the region for the next fifty years. In all likelihood, your grandchildren may be attending events at this stadium. The people who are alive today? We might only get one shot to get this right. We can't let this opportunity be pissed away like so many misjudgments and corrupt decisions that have plagued the region over the past 60 years.

The amount of public money and/or tax breaks the developers and Bills franchise will receive over the course of construction and decades-long lifetime of a new stadium is astronomical. Western New York cannot afford to squander that sum. There MUST be some return on investment. This return must have considerable and tangible economic and financial benefit above and beyond the "improved quality of life" that a professional sports team brings to residents of the area. The stadium must be built as part, perhaps as the centerpiece, of a larger development plan that will boost the region economically. To do anything else is foolhardy and an immense waste of both public funds and trust. So, where do you build the centerpiece of your development? On top of a strip mall seven miles down the road from where the previous stadium was considered an utter failure to stimulate economic growth? Where a now-leveled shopping mall was decimated by its own parent company's decision to invest in a newer regional shopping mall nearby? That location's not exactly ground zero for the new economic engine of Buffalo. It's surrounded by residential neighborhoods with very little prospect for growth of the type of development that could be gained from a new billion-dollar-class football stadium. It's Orchard Park II. The arguments about transportation and parking space are just about complete ######. The new stadium will be an attractor (if you build it, they will come) regardless of where it's built, with the crucial, crucial, crucial difference being what kind of positive economic influence on the region the stadium can provide as part of a larger plan. I think the most benefit would come from putting the stadium downtown or as close to downtown along the waterfront as possible as part of a larger development, but that's just my opinion. The economic impact needs to be maximized, and I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen if we build a billion-dollar tombstone for Seneca Mall.

I hate that location. And the fact that Golisano's partner is the Pyramid Mall Kid and owns that land likely means that they won't be flexible in considering better stadium location options.

Moore/Weise hit was almost identical to Neil/Drury, except Weise didn't bust his head on the ice when he went down.

Just part of having something always going on in a vibrant downtown.

Yep.

OH AQUALUNG!

Huh. How about that.

I grew up with Bills, Sabres, Bisons. Went to UB. Went to Wisconsin. Caught a couple Padres games. Caught a couple Brewers games. All of these places, you could tailgate if you wanted (and for Bills, Badgers, Padres, and Brewers, tailgating was huge). Tailgating is a riotously fun time. I went to a Dodger game and was asked for identification and put on a list because I cracked open a PBR in the parking lot. No tailgating allowed, strictly enforced. No tailgating sucks dick. Period.

This is a moon-crashing-into-the-earth-level of earth-shatteringly ludicrous drivel and I refuse to read another pixel of it. Ever. And then I will. But I won't like it. Sometimes.

Five minute press conference, not two minute.

Except in the case of San Jose. And sometimes Vancouver.

I would enjoy any of those things.

Nailed it! I think it's still possible that Miller resigns in St Louis, but it'd be a quite unlikely and curious move. Keep in mind that Brian Elliott hasn't ever played a truly "full" (>55 game) season. Does a wannabe contender go all in on Elliott and developing goalie Jake Allen? Or do they bring in a veteran, have him split time with the guy that's been splitting time, and let Jake Allen take time to develop in the A? That'd be a lot of goalie insurance, but a defense-first team may be looking for that- because if one of those guys goes down or, in Elliott's case, they can't handle the workload, their goaltending situation becomes an enormous question mark.

Because the hand waving doesn't get conveyed in a press release!

Effectively, that's what option three of the first question is.

I only started watching motor sports again about a year and a half ago. It's pretty clear that NBC excels at open wheels (F1, IndyCar) coverage and FOX excels at NASCAR. ESPN/ABC dabble in both IndyCar and NASCAR, but seem to suck at it, IMO. The coverage you describe sounds very Disney-esque, which isn't atypical for ABC.

A reasonable plan, but there is one rub. You might have to know who's ready now before training camp, before the UFA period starts, if you want to fill your roster gaps with players that are at least decent. Otherwise, you get to camp, maybe decide you want more of the kids in Rochester, and then the only UFA players available are the plugs that didn't get signed in July. That may work great for option B of question 1, but not much else. This is a very strange time for the Sabres roster, it'll be interesting to see what GMTM does.

http://www.19ideas.com/stadium/?id=968

In my case, at work, some of the shortened URLs are blocked due to the perceived country domains. It's not your problem. I did go to CBC to see if I could find the article, but I couldn't.