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This sounds pretty complex, not sure that it could be pulled off... I will say Jacobs is known as cheap, however, he hires at least moderately competent people, he has won a cup in recent history and his teams are remarkably consistent with identity. Not that a move like this could or would ever happen... but pie in the sky... I would view this as a net plus for the organization simply for the over all breaking of this vicious self fulfilling cycle of futility.

It may be empty when you get it back lol 😆

Bottom line is they are literally trying to lose they enjoy it there can be no other explanation for this level of incompetence no one can possibly be this bad at their given profession

total agreement from me

That probably is a much better guess than anyone that is competent... although I wonder hypothetically if he would even come back. Not that this wouldnt be amongst the most lame brained ideas Pegula has ever had.

Clearly, its on the way back LOL

I... I just cant... lol...

That would be something the only time there is pervasive cheering in the arena is leafs fans

I am for anything that gives us hope... right now the only thing we have is utter despair.

I agree with you... but we both know some google search looking for an independent opinion means nothing... results do... and the results speak for themselves.... 14 years and no hope on the horizon... its us and the Jets LOL

Maybe it will take the focus of the National media to precipitate something... maybe the abject independant ridicule will spark something... so it cant be blamed on inpatient angry fans who are mad because we have no palm trees... maybe.... something tells me it wont... it will be rinse, wash , repeat.

Who knew he was referencing a raffle for a hot/cold coffee, drink cup.

I know this to be a ridiculous statement... but I think I would really love to see an all out game between the Sabres and the Merks... just to see what would happen...

I am all for standing up for change... I have 2 problems... 1. I am not sure that doing it during the anthem if that is what you are thinking is the right place to demand this type of change. I think the anthem is bigger than a hockey game or an individuals desire for a new team mate, coach, or GM. 2. I think that they need to look at themselves as players and who they are before they start calling for heads. They have an opportunity to effect outcomes. I think kneeling and calling for a change of regime essentially absolves them in their minds and ultimately states we have no personal responsibility for what is taking place here and THOSE are not players we want on this team. I think whats more their actual pathetic efforts speak more on a day to day basis and over the past 14 years than any kneel down... if ownership cant see that kneeling isnt going to be effective even if I did agree with it.

I feel like there is gonna be a beat down from the leafs and the bruins... maybe the Blackhawks? But heck if they lose all of their games and lose to the hawks they are literally mired in complete last place in the league with scant hope of getting out of it...

I agree here, there is plenty of blame to go around... I think when you literally look from top to bottom... right to the players and asst coaching... they are all failures... Adams, Pegula, Ellis, Cozens... who ever you want to lump in... no one has improved the situation... the word is culture... it is the culture of the organization that started a long long time ago... I literally think those inside the building are actually numb to it at this point... walking around like zombies resigned to their fate... and Pegula fiddling while it all burns cause he likes and trusts the people that he hired and they always tell him yes... and then he immerses himself in the Bills.... I almost think Toxic is too tame a word at this point...

Which is why when I hear people calling for trades I begin to nervously twitch LOL... I just cannot stomach the utter ineptitude of the current regime doing anything with our assets... I know we cant worry about what players become... but who has the current regime traded for that has improved our team in some meaningful way...

Well LOL... I can go with you dont agree that it wasnt Pegula that suggested this and it was Ruff cause that is very possible... I just thought it wasnt Lindy like to cancel a practice on a 10 game losing streak... again certainly a possibility... However, for it to be in almost 14 years to be the dumbest thing ever said on this forum... thats quite a take... then to throw a personal insult at me because I thought it was a possibility? Guess that is your choice... are you really an administrator of this board may I ask? Now for that literally I could not blame him... we can throw that into the jar of possibilities LOL

Who knows... I just cant believe Lindy would say no practice today... so maybe it was him... but I just struggle with that approach, it would be awfully ballsy for him to cancel practice for an underperforming team when the owner is flying out to talk to them... but maybe... we will never know.

Lets look at this a little closer for more info... Was it Lindy that cancelled the practice? I some how doubt that.. Which means it was Pegula that cancelled the practice after likely Ruff was Voluntold to agree with it... talk about Meddling in the micro day to day.. I think we can see plainly that Pegula is actively engaged in the day to day dysfunction... I did see Ruff in his press conference looking a combination of defeated, disgusted and helpless... I wonder how much , obviously not all, was TP stepping into his world and dictating the practice schedule...

Well then we are in complete agreement (although I am not sure Ruff is the real issue here) ... I only hope that he 1. See the obvious need and ceedes control... 2, Someone legitimate and outside of this internal circle jerk of ineptness will come here... outside of selling the team what you suggest is to me the only real hope.

I can see Drury hating Buffalo and never coming back... I can see Peca not coming back.... I am not sure when you say why are you promoting failure.... if you mean, why am I suggesting this (which I absolutely am not) or why would Terry do this... If it is why would Terry do this it is because I think he is inept and I have no faith he will do the smart thing... I think he will perpetuate the same dysfuncion and nespotic internal incestuous abject incompetence he has for his tenure. Nothing more than a complete overhaul of the front office to me is acceptable... but in the end how often are you going to do this before you simply cant attract any skill to come here... which ultimately means our best option is for him to sell the team.

To your last point which I agree with... Either, the team is talented and they are uptight "gripping thier sticks too tight" (which is a euphemism for we are trying really hard and just need to relax) OR Lazy, disengaged, and soft and not fit to play the sport of hockey..... So.... which one.... Terry comes in and says... I am with you boys.. relax we can solve this... lets take the day off you guys got this... no crazy moves are gonna happen.... Now if the gripping the stick to tight scenario was the problem you have a more relaxed team just going out and playing free and having fun... I think we got our answer... team was like wooooo hoooo no changes we can continue to country club it for a bit longer.... OR they literally became more demoralized because there is no change on the way and they are begging for it..... either of the last two is a horrific situation. Pegula must be proud !

Agreed here... the way this team is built and has been built for years is completely incompatible with playing the sport of Hockey.. and no... we dont need to go pull Jon Scott out of retirement... there needs to be a cavalcade of players that are willing to go into the difficult areas and play a difficult sport... there needs to be a cavalcade of players that are willing to make difficult areas for the other team to go into... and in the end... we havent seen the attritive nasty grind that is hockey in the latter portion of the year when teams really elevate their nasty sacrifice your body type of play.... as for the playoffs... I just laugh, I cannot imagine a team this soft entering a playoff arena and not ending up with several players a game either in the hospital or with PTSD... they wouldnt win a game... they wouldnt even remotely understand what it takes to win a game in the playoffs... maybe Zucker or Malenstyn but after that... who? Greenway if he is not injured again...?

This is entirely possible... I would definately say dont draft a college kid... cause they aint coming here...