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Wouldn't this actually work in reverse for the Sabres? The more you see of it........................ To your whole point I think it's the losing that has driven away the younger fans or potential fans. Hard to get behind a perpetual loser. You need something to get excited about to draw you in. As you likely know I was a Bruins fan first. I was drawn into that watching Orr flying through the air and winning a cup. They seemed awesome. (and they had uniforms like my home town Tiger Cats, I was young). When I saw the young French Connection knock off the hated Habs I got hooked on the Sabres. Yes, there was local tv to see them more but it was that exciting energetic dynamic that won games that mattered most. You can't draw in many new fans to a loser team.

I don't hate him, I just think he's a lousy analyst.

I doubt it. I honestly think there is zero pride in the jersey. It doesn't mean anything any more. Maybe to Tuch since he's a local boy but not to the rest. So many years of garbage have eroded any sense of pride in the jersey at all and they all know that they can move on to other places and have success as they've seen with others. Fans booing them just gives them an excuse to want out.

Well I do think the fans have crossed over the breaking point. They were booing with about 30 seconds to go and the team was only down a goal with the net empty. I have never seen that in my entire life. After it's over sure, but never when a team is down by 1 late. It's understandable, but I think it's a new low.

Rob Ray's a bigger problem imo. The play by play guy calls the play. It's the "color commentary" guy's job to give you the actual insights and analysis. Ray just makes excuses and pokes fun at Marty for some unknown irrelevant reason.

Oh okay gotcha now, beat the champ. Well you'd have to do that in the playoffs though so that still remains to be seen. All 3 of those guys are going to be good players, it's just that Bedard was heralded as the best of the them and right now I'd place him third.

They're definitely some type of floaters. Merry Christmas from your Buffalo Sabres

I think that's true. I wonder if some of them are afraid of being shut out or denied access by Pegula? I don't know if that's true or not, but they do throw marshmallows more often than not. The broadcast team is also a sadly apologetic and excuse riddled crew. Only Biron is occasionally tougher on them, but that's because he has another job as well. So, no practice no availability? Spa day? If something happens, fair enough. If nothing happens, just more Sabres country club bs. Mind you if that something is firing Lindy and naming Appert interim head coach I'm going to start looking for a new team to go along with the Bruins.

I'm not sure what that means but Cellebrini looks like he might be better than Bedard. Personally I think Michkov might be better than either of them.

We all have to accept the fact that Pat LaFontaine saw where this would go right from the start and he was right. After that, the team missed a moment where they could have hired Rick Dudley as a president/director of hockey operations/whatever you want to call it above the GM but that guy is never here and that guy is always Terry Pegula and that sums up all that. We all know it, and we are all helpless to do anything about it. If you keep paying him money to go to these games you are an idiot. You'd be better off buying a banana and some duct tape.

The "panic" narrative is complete and utter BS. Cozen's new nickname should be Glue Factory.

I heard ya the first time 🙂 Zucker didn't come here to lead us out of the wilderness or to win a cup. Zucker came here because he's an aging veteran and we paid him a lot more than he was going to get anywhere else. He never had any plans to settle down in Buffalo. They may have even promised to deadline deal him if the season went badly, which is what I expect happens anyway.

"right kind" would be the operative point.

A procedure that wasn't a surgery........................my wild guess is he has a back problem.

I agree but there's an easier fix. Elevate Ruff to director of all hockey operations (so above Adams) with full control and move down to Florida and just count your cash Terry. But ya, Terry gone is what i have wanted for a long time.

idk if that's true but Murray certainly recognized that the team needed more toughness then. He traded Zadorov away but he did add a number of tougher pieces to go around Eichel (who we know he wanted to be McDavid). I do wonder if we'd won that lottery if we wouldn't be where Edmonton is as although Eichel has won his cup and changed a lot, McDavid has always had more of an independent drive and work ethic. I think he would have been a better captain superstar (even if you don't look at the talent difference between them). On the downside, the D was in a shambles when he left and JBot was in a point of desperation trying to build any sort of competent D.

My point would be that there is enough high end talent. It's the culture that is broken. Yes, exactly. This is what I mean when I say the culture is broken.

Except, that should be enough shouldn't it? There's lots of NHL teams that don't have any more high end talent than that, but they do better.

I'm going to keep watching. I like sit coms.

Only problem with yet another tear down is we have already done it but each time we build it back wrong so if we don't change the methodology it will just repeat again.

Yes, in the last 2 periods if they wanted the puck they just took it and when they had it Sabres couldn't (or wouldn't) take it from them. They massed around the net and created lots of traffic, deflections, basic chaos. Exactly what Lindy has preached, because it's hockey 101, but Sabres generally don't/won't/can't do it. We can argue over which of those 3 things it is, but in all cases the end result is the same. At least Mitts wasn't a stand out. That would have been even harder to take.

Right Miss Positive. Maybe you can't articulate your own points. Colorado game just exemplified all of it again. Soft children playing against men. It's all on Pegula imo.

The nerve of those bastards switching goalies on us. Imagine how good Colorado would be if they had good goaltending? Just a pity we can't play a Georgiev every night. Then we might make the playoffs. Seems just about the only way. I got nothing. Men against boys.

Just to be clear I am not saying fight Foligno. I'm just saying get up and push back. As I've said in several other replies compare him to Benson. Small and young (younger) and yet he pushes back constantly. Initiates even. As far as I remember he hasn't had a single actual fight yet and he doesn't have to have one. He shouldn't at his size and age. So in this instance 1) Quinn should see him coming and brace for the contact. It was at the end of a play and Foligno just stuck out a shoulder, he wasn't even moving fast. You can shoulder back on that or at least brace for it. 2) give him a good whack back as it happens or from the ground 3) get angry and create a scrum and go after one of their smaller guys (letting one of your bigger guys go after him). It's all part of hockey. The highlighted line is most definitely true and it's what I said earlier in the year. He looks like a child. He looks like an 18 or 19 year old who you wonder if they are big and strong enough to be in the NHL or should they go back to junior and lift weights. He is still slight of frame and just a skinny kid. I don't ever remember Reinhart looking that slight as that age. First year he came in yes, but not at 23.

BS. Your reply is what a "keyboard warrior" does. Attack the poster, not the post. You know you wouldn't do that face to face in real life. That's not what people do in real life unless they are trying to start fights. It's not just that play. There's numerous times when he gives up the puck to avoid contact or he takes a long nothing shot or makes a weak pass to avoid it. Compare him to Benson, I dare you to consider that comparison as you watch a game. If you don't see the difference you just don't get hockey. The hit from Foligno I highlight because of how easily he went down, how nobody reacted, and how he just looked stunned and shocked like "hey, you can't do that to me" rather than giving anything back or even being just angry about it. It was weak.