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I don't see us spending a ton in free agency so unless something big still happens we will be well below the cap. I suppose he might dump a pile of cash at Byram and keep him but we still won't spend to the cap.

Yes Philly did, but in this draft it's all size and meanness. I have seen the D moves but I think Clifton was overly maligned in a bad system, I don't like Timmins he's worse than Jokiharju was. Kesselring I like, but I do not think he's as good as some here think either. We still have Samuelsson and imo the D isn't all that much better and is still dependent on Power being better. Which might happen, but might not. The draft picks are all way down the road guys.

But round 3. Lesser version. I hope he works out and develops into an NHL player but he's going to take years to get there. I don't like this trade. I think Kettles will be better than Timmins (for example).

I don't have any issues with this pick. In the very least he will balance out Rochester's team balance eventually. Maybe make the NHL and be a solid bottom guy.

Except he passed on some big (and mean) RHD at the top of the round to trade for cast off RHD and he shipped out our own tiny RHD and dumped the soft one last year so are we actually any better???

Philly going big, mean and nasty all over the place. Broad Street Bullies might be coming back. Talk about a team thinking opposite to the Sabres.

Isn't Timmins the guy the Bruins absolutely destroyed in the playoffs and hence Leafs dumped him? I might be remembering the wrong guy, but if that's him he was BAD. I don't know much else about them. Clifton would have been better to be a deadline dump and I bet you Pittsburgh gets at least a 2nd for him at the deadline but whatever. I liked the D depth with Clifton at the bottom better than now but I guess our quota for guys who hit on D is one max. aside - (Only the Sabres however. Only the Sabres could produce a video with Alex Tuch telling a kid he gets to announce the 2nd round pick and then turn around and trade away the 2nd round pick so the kid announces the 3rd rounder. It was a nice moving story and which pick it is probably doesn't matter to the kid who gets the insiders tour and all that but really? Bush league with the video. )

Not this year.

Some are more ready than others.

Oh if McQueen is healthy he's Getzlaf and he will be the steal of the draft, but it's a gamble. Ducks willing to gamble so we shall see how it goes. I see Mrtka as a safe conservative pick. You can't teach that sort of size and he's likely to become something decent, but it'll take several years. I'd rather have traded the pick than make this one. Or just go for the grit and character and take Bear. Really hate Detroit getting Bear. Did I say that enough yet? Probably keep saying it forever.

Pittsburgh's the team that I found odd in this draft. Maybe they are smarter but their picks seem out of place.

Ya, I had my eye on him as well. Raw talent but I think he will be really good. Didn't think we'd get a chance at him though. Originally (when they had a late first) I thought Philly would take him because they love size.

Kind of. Definitely not Chara. He genuinely looked sad though when his name was announced. I don't know the details on all these other teams but how many of them had their owners in the welcoming/draft group? I don't think many.

Not happy Detroit got Carter Bear. I thought that was why Philly traded up but then they went Nesbitt so whatever. I really liked Bear and don't want the direct competition to have him. I said 3 years away but could be 4. Dahlin will be gone by then.

Unlikely. Martone had a childhood Flyers jersey and billeted with the same family that Owen Tippett had. He's a Flyer. If McQueen is healthy Ducks got a new Getzlaf.

That's actually fairly possible. I personally don't like most of them (except Helenius) but I just kind of figure there's enough ceiling on some of them that you shpould be able to get somebody to bite but maybe not. 4D chess right?

Called it. Quite predictable really. I like the pick but he's realistically 3 years away. I really hope we don't rush this one.

I think they definitely want to have options for trying to get Hagens for sure. I suspect they will try to entice Boston into something if Hagens is still there at 7. You can say Dobson isn't worth the price or the salary but Montreal just got immediately better. This is exactly what Sabres don't do and thus don't get better. Trading futures for the present. Big additions. We just rotate pieces.

Yes exactly, Kesselring and Doan are the type of players we can use and no issues getting them but giving up Peterka for them was a problem. We needed to give up some of that prospect cupboard to actually get better. The Savoie trade was the right idea but Adams hasn't been able to do more of them. Likely overvalues his picks and their ceilings.

Well imo we still need 3 pieces to have any sort of real chance. A top 6 forward to replace Peterka. Another solid D man so that Samuelsson can be dumped and at least a mid level veteran goalie to create a competition there and make Levi really earn it when ready. We still might not be tough enough with that and it wouldn't win in the playoffs but it might be enough to compete for the playoffs and maybe get in like Ottawa did.

I don't think it's any secret that this roster was constructed poorly and his plan was dumb so there's no question these sort of players are the type we are missing and it does help change the make up of the roster in the right way, but unless he moves Byram for a top 6 forward (or picks and prospects for one) he's still playing that game of fix one hole create another and he looks like he's playing whack a mole or something. The problem is Dahlin's patience is at the breaking point right? He's said as much. It's now or it's another tear down do over.

I have no idea if Adams is done or not but I fear the end result. I am concerned with the loss of offensive production. We are forever going back and forth and not progressing. As I said, if we gave up any number of prospects I'd love these additions but what we gave up creates an even bigger hole. Right now we still look like a farm team for the rest of the league.

I'm not undervaluing him. I think he's a good addition. But I do think people here are undervaluing Peterka who imo has not hit his ceiling yet. Utah's top 6 with him added looks really good.

Did we? So what are we looking at now? (assuming Byram is moved) Dahlin - Samuelsson???? Power-Kesselring Bernard Docker-Clifton Bryson Does that actually inspire confidence in you??? I'd say we need more.

I'd be over the moon if we'd traded say Rosen and Östlund plus some picks or some other Rochester guy for Kesselring and Doan but for Peterka it's not enough and we create another hole. So maybe if he moves Byram for a true top 6 forward it'll end up an improvement, but that hasn't happened yet.