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The point of the comparison isn’t a shot at Jack, but a sign that we got a quality return for him that is making an immediate positive impact.

Don’t forget Finkle is Einhorn.

Also Berglund was kind enough to skip town allowing us to void his deal and save $12 mill.

I think of Krebs as more of a Nik Backstrom light.

Agreed, also Thompson has turned into a really good player and Johnson has a chance to be solid as well. They were the “prizes” from the ROR trade. Berglund and Sobatka were cap balance and roster filler. I was about to post an Eichel to Tuch comparison when I saw your and Brawndo’s posts. Eichel gave us 2 g and 18 points in 21 games last year. Tuch so far; 3g 7a for 10 pts in only 9 games.

Why do you doubt he’ll be traded? He is on cheap expiring contract, is having a good year, playoff teams need scoring depth and I doubt he has a place in next year’s lineup with all the kids likely getting jobs. Vogl in the Athletic has him, along with Miller and Hagg as our mostly likely trade pieces to bring good value.

I am going to assume the Amerks remain in the playoffs and that Hinostroza and Miller are traded at the deadline. I'm also going to assume the guys stay mostly healthy and I recognize that that's a big if. Olofsson Mitts Tuch Asplund Cozens Okposo Skinner Thompson Quinn Girgensons Jankowski Murray Dahlin Jokiharju Samuelsson Pysyk Bryson Hagg Anderson UPL I'd trade Caggilua, Butcher, Eakin, Hayden and Bjork if teams are interested and if not, put them on the Taxi squad in case of Covid or Injuries. Bryson and Murray are probably on the bench until Hinostroza and Miller are traded. IMHO Quinn and Samuelsson and even Murray have proven they have nothing left to prove in the A and we therefore should be getting them NHL PT. They can always go down for the playoffs. UPL was a close call, but ultimately we need to find out if his good play here was an aberration or the start of something good. The only way to determine that is by playing him. The top 3 forward line, I think could be mix and match depending on who DG like together. I created a semi-D conscious 2nd line, and think the combo of Mitts, Tuch and Olofsson could generate a ton of offense.

I agree. That was one amazing pass. On the NHL network highlight shows, they talk about Quinn excellent shot, but not one mention of the sick pass.

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it does seem like the team doesn't go a single game without someone getting hurt.

If it wasn’t for bad luck the Sabres would have no luck at all. I’ve changed my mind KA, move all AHL eligible players to Rochester just to protect them from the Sabres injury curse.

Dahlin is the only truly dynamic player on this team. What Krueger did to this team and these players in unforgivable. He should never be allowed near another hockey team at any level ever.

Hard to win with guys like this on your roster.

That's one of the reasons they are down on my chart. I think Rosen won't be here until 2023-24 and the Russians until 2024-25.

Here is how I'd rank the prospects right now from 1-33. To me the biggest surprises are Novikov, Biro, Cederqvist, Murray and of course Levi. Biggest disappointments R2, Rosen, Poltapov and Kisakov. I thought all 4 would take a big step forward, but I haven't seen it yet. I have Levi lower then others not because I don't love what he has done this season, but because I consider how long it takes until someone gets to the NHL as well as their upside and everyone I rated ahead of him are NHL regulars now or will be soon. Goaltenders and their develop is especially hard to predict. Still Levi has been arguably with Power the best two players in the NCAA. 1 Power - 24 pts in 22 NCAA Games and completely dominating the competition. 2 Quinn - Dominate in the AHL (35 pts in 24 games). Looked solid in NHL debut. 3 Cozens - Cozens is improving in the NHL, not sure where his pts ceiling is yet. 50, 60 or 70? 4 Krebs - Solid AHL numbers and has shown flashes in the NHL. Still needs work before ready. 5 JJP - 26 pts in 27 AHL games. Made NHL debut, but still work to be done on his two way game. 6 Samuelsson - Put up good O numbers in the AHL (16 pts in 20 games). Came up and played solidly. No surprise. Will O game develop in the NHL only question. Should be an NHL regular now. (I'm really tempted to move Matt ahead of JJP and Krebs). 7 UPL- Shaky start to the season in the A, but then got on a roll and continue solid play in 9 NHL games. Now injured. 8 Levi - Absolutely dominating the NCAA in net. 9 Shutouts. 1.31 gaa and .955 save %. Cal Petersen never looked this good. AHL next year? 9 Johnson - Solid all around D play in 3rd NCAA season. AHL likely next year, but could also compete for an NHL job next year. Think a better McCabe. 10 R2 - 18 NHL games didn't go as hoped, not sure if he's not good enough or bad linemates. Jury is still out. Should get another shot after the deadline. 11 Portillo - Michigan NCAA anchor in net. Solid play with a 2.31 and .921. Probably needs another year in college before turning pro. 12 Rosen - 4 pts in 27 SHL games and since returned to Jrs, 6 pts in 5 SWE Jr games 13 Poltapov - 0 pts in 17 KHL games and since returned to Jrs, 9 pts in 7 MHL games 14 Kisakov - 0 pts in 4 KHL games and since returned to Jrs, 31 pts in 32 MHL games w 15 goals. 15 Bryson - Now an NHL regular, but it looks like he may lose out to the LHD coming like Samuelsson, Johnson and Power 16 Murray - 6 pts in 18 NHL games. Phyiscal presence who can contribute up the lineup. Should be a depth NHL piece going forward. 17 Laaksonen - Excellent O creator from the blueline, D game still needs work, but improving. I can him making an NHL debut sooner then later. 18 Novikov - 18 year old D don't often hold their own in the KHL. Novikov has, but has since been sent down after the World Jrs. 19 Nadeau - Leading scorer w 45 pts in 30 games for the Shawingan in the Q. 20 Bloom - Scoring slowed after a big start, but solid at 15g 29pts in 31 OHL games 21 Fitzgerald - Finally made his NHL debut and played solidly. Should get another shot given our need for RHD and stay at home defensemen. 22 Weissbach - 23 year doing ok in rookie pro season with 13 points in 24 games in a middle six role 23 Biro - Huge improvement for this 23 year old. 21 points in 26 games as a middle six playmaker. Would like to see him get a callup soon. 24 Kozak - 34 pts in 35 games in the tough WHL. Big step forward in D+1 season 25 Cederqvist - 16 pts in 27 SHL games. I can now see him getting a shot at the AHL next season 26 Costantini Former Jr Sabres, playing well for UND with 10 pts in 16 games as an NCAA rookie2 27 Konecny - Czech World Jr team member doing Ok in senior Czech league with 7 pts in 28 games 28 Lyckasen - Swedish RHD getting regular PT in mid level SWE1 league. 12 pts in 32 games. 29 Rousek - Injury has kept this physical scorer from helping the Amerks this season 30 Von Barnekow - Dominate in Swe Jr (27 pts in 19 games) but zero pts in the SHL or Swe1 leagues 31 Huglen - Getting pretty regular PT for Minn Gophers with 4 pts in 20 games 32 Sardarian - 12 pts in 22 USHL games 33 Marjala - only 14 pts in 30 Q games, down from 27 in 30 last year

it is terrible. If we were paying him the market value of $5 mill and he produces a 40 pts season no big deal, but if you are paying someone $8 you need to get 20 goals and 60 assists to justify the contract. Why do we all rag on Skinner? It's because he isn't producing close to even half value on his contract (although he is on a 30 goal pace this season without RK). Also the stats don't reflect your performance argument. Hall had 6 pts (of his 19 total) in his first 3 games and then only 13 (1 goal) pts in the next 34 with 3 coming in his last 7. Sorry friend, but after the first 3 games he was down right awful. That's a 31 pt pace for the season after the first 3 games, but a 35 pt pace in the last 7 games before the trade.

Signing Hall I don't think in any way prevented a Reinhart extension. Samson was under contract for the last season with Hall or without him. Had they signed Sam to an extension it would have kicked in this season. It's more likely that when the team starting going further down hill TP/KP told KA to scrap the thing and Reinhart told management to trade him. No extension was on the table from the Sabres and no extension was requested from Reinhart. To bad. I agree with @dudacek that it would have been great to have Samson back this season to be the top line center and allow the kids to grow in secondary roles. I also agree that the deal we got for him for have been on the table ( or even a better one) come the deadline. Honestly the dealing of Reinhart this summer instead of a bridge deal for the season to me looks more and more as evidence of a mandate to save $ and a decision to not put the best possible product on the ice, but I digress. Also 17 assists in 37 games for a top line player is not a good assist total., especially when you consider a 71% O zone start percentage. With 19 points total in 37 games, Hall was on pace for a 41 pt season. Mitts, VO and especially Reinhart all out pointed him in both actual and in p/gp for significantly less $. Hall was a waste. Also the $8 mill contract when the market price was $5 mill is what facilitated the deal. Hall's camp asked for the NMC and KA stupidly gave it to him. He would have signed the deal with a limited NTC or possibly none at all to get the money. Also we had better offers at the deadline according to news reports for the NYI and Caps.

@dudacek giving KA a “pass” on the Hall fiasco is funny my friend. To put it simply he overpaid to get Hall. Gave him a NMC which destroyed his trade value. He played a position that was already deep with Skinner and VO and therefore didn’t fix any roster holes. His addition sent Skinner to RK purgatory. He was terrible on the ice with 2 goals in 37 games. The trade garnered for us a late 2nd rd pick (Kisakov), who may not reach NA for 2-3 more years, plus we gave up a serviceable 4th line center in Lazar (something we still need)for an awful depth forward in Bjork who we are stuck with because he had a 3 year deal. That is the ultimate fail for any GM at both ends for the transaction. Getting 2 goals for an $8 investment is a fail. Getting only a 2nd rd pick for a former recent MVP is a fail and being stuck with 2.5 years of Bjork makes it worse.

Good news on Mitts, to bad he’ll be skating alone when he gets back if this injury trend continues.

I hate to say this but the lower the cap stays the harder it will be for many teams to hold on to players giving us a better opportunity to utilize our cap space to steal a needed player or 3.

Back in the day Lydman was acquired for a 4th. I think you can get a quality player for a 2nd. Zadorov went for a 3rd this summer. Nate Schmidt also went for a 3rd. Brendan Dillon went for 2 2nds. I do that deal right now. Jake Bean went for a 2nd. Bottom line is that help is available without breaking the bank draft pick wise.

I'd take Klingberg or Josh Manson. I also give Justin Braun a 1 year deal. That said, I think the more likely route is taking someone with a year or two left on their deal who a team may part with to stay cap compliant. For example someone like Orlov or even Scandella. I want the veteran leadership on the backend to mentor Dahlin, Samuelsson and Power but who can still play hockey. Admittedly these are deals are more likely this coming off-season, but there maybe one possible at the deadline.

While I agree that TM over did it in the trade department, I do believe that we are at the point where we need some help to fix holes that our prospects group isn't providing. As to enhancing the team at the deadline, I also agree that it's difficult, but not impossible. One of the hallmarks of the Crosby era in Pittsburgh is that they had a multi season approach to the trade deadline. Two examples (but there are others), Chris Kunitz was a deadline acquisition in 2009 and then played the next 8 years for the Pens and Erod went there at the deadline in 2020 and has now been a fixture in their lineup for the last 2 seasons. The RHD will be hard to come by at the deadline, but there are teams who will need cap space to make deals at the deadline and who knows what might shake loose.

I don't disagree on the 1st rd picks, but I disagree on the 2nds. It depends on what is being offered. If I can get a Toni Lydman type player who is 25 to 27, I trade a 2nd for him in a heartbeat. (DR gave a 4th for Lydman who was 27 when acquired). To me a 2nd in 2023 is a player who has a 25% chance of being an NHLer in 2-5 years from being drafted. I rather have a player then can help now. Also we are going to need 15-17 million in contracts just to get to the floor next season. Even if we sign VO for $5 mill, we'll still need 10-12. KA has to get to something for that money (not a Butcher :)). As I been saying for a year, get a goalie and one or two good stay at home D to get us to the floor. If KA weaponizes the cap space to go beyond the floor I'll be pleasantly surprised.

Tons of extra draft picks and tons of cap space. If your right, KA should have at a minimum be able to utilize the cap space to enhance the team. Since about 75% of the players lack any form of NMC/NTC, there has to be someone KA could acquire to enhance the D at the deadline or next off-season.