Curt

Best proof I’ve seen so far.

I don’t think they are all that similar. What do you mean exactly?

How do you know? Prove it. I just don’t think there is any way that you can say that with any degree of certainty.

The team wants to trade Eichel. A NMC makes that more difficult, as it’s designed to do. It’s in their best interest to find a deal before then. I don’t see how you can argue otherwise. It doesn’t automatically mean that Eichel gets to hand pick his team of choice and goes there for 20 cents on the dollar, but it certainly gives Eichel more control over the situation. It certainly means something and makes a real difference. Those scenarios you outlined (bolded) as what the Sabres can do if Eichel gets picky are simply terrible results for the Sabres as well. They don’t want that. They want to successfully trade him, get some assets and get him out.

There are more people in the world that Kevyn Adams and Pat Brisson. Reporters get information from many sources. Not everyone who might leak information to a reporter does so with the pure motivation of gaining advantage in a trade negotiation.

Vegas But I also say that neither trade works financially. This would either team over the cap.

They don’t really save $2.85M because they still need to pay a player to take Schmaltz’s roster spot. So in reality they are saving no more than $2M in cap space. Schmaltz - $5.85 Eichel Retention ($3) + roster player ($0.75 min) - $3.75

They would only save a max of about $2-2.5M in cap though. He may be underperforming his contract but I just question whether they are willing to take on the $3M of dead cap for 4 more years just to dump him. Generally teams that are looking to dump a useful but overpayed/underperforming player are not also looking to take on long term dead cap space.

Why would Arizona trade away Schmaltz for the privilege of paying $3M of Eichel’s salary? EDIT: ok, I see what you mean about his contract being backloaded, but you think they are really so desperate to dump him? Are they really that desperate to save ~$4M in salary (~$2M in cap)

It was written as Krebs, Tuch, Brisson OR Coghlan, and a 1st. It wasn’t super clearly written, but I took it as either Brisson or Coghlan, in addition to all other pieces as is.

What does everyone think that it means to call this a framework? This wasn’t a deal that was actually agreed to by both sides because (1) if a deal is actually agreed to by both sides, then it would be done, and (2) the money in the proposed deal doesn’t work for either team. Because of that, I guess I just don’t know what this framework actually is. Now, maybe Vegas and Sabres agreed to this as a possibility IF Vegas can find some other way to move salary and IF Buffalo can take on money from somewhere else. Those are somewhat big if’s though and even if the stars do align and the salary moves get done, who knows if one side or the other changes their mind by then. Basically, it doesn’t actually look that close to me.

I want to watch too. Can your 6 and 9 year old sit through a 2hr 35min movie?

This whole thing that’s going on right now is all because Buffalo doesn’t want to assume the risk of Eichel’s surgery. I don’t see them changing their mind on that.

Right. How about we give prospects at least a half season in the AHL to learn and show consistently before rushing them up.

If they retain salary on Eichel, what difference does the insurance make. They would end up paying the amount they retained regardless of what happens with Eichel afterwards.

(1) I’m not too sure that this true. (2) Even if “the fans” will want an Eichel trade more if the team loses 2-3 in a row, what difference will it make?

I don’t think so. Whoever’s doctors approve the surgery would be fully on the hook.

I bet “we” aren’t.

I would say that he is basically on par with those prospects you listed. He certainly has performed as well as they have.

Could you please tell us what you know?

Wow, he was doing pretty well before, but that’s a huge game. Would be nice if a couple of these mid-late round picks turned out, especially a couple guys with some size.

I was purposefully being pedantic, adhering strictly to the letter of the question while ignoring the spirit. I was just screwing around.

Pedantic joke, yes. So.......what insight do you hope to gain from this poll and why?

The point of my statement was to convey which answer I feel is the correct one. The point of my question was to try to understand what insight you hoped to gain from the poll and why.

All I saw was a guy make a 12 pass then fall down. I thought we got rid of that guy?