Thorny

Lance “Chad” Lysowski has been skirting by for far too long

Would love to lock up Power LT now but I really hope it’s for 7 or the full 8

Was only a matter of time

Which is why that was always such a smart move for Florida. Time travelled their core backwards in a sense by committing to a younger player in Tkachuk instead

So he got very close to his price Equivalent hold to Danny B’s asking price of 2 firsts would be a first and a second

I actually dislike the “reaction” system in its entirety and wish it wasn’t a feature, at all. But with it being here, it needs to be used

They kinda *didnt* lock up Dahlin, early, like they could have, like we are trying to see Adams do with his core, so I’d imagine he’s pushing quite hard for Power this summer so he doesn’t end up getting 10+ as well Dahlin at 10 would still be fair (more than, really) so considering some of the other good contracts we have I don’t see that as an issue at all. Especially not with the “no 10 mil player has ever won a cup” barrier likely falling this very playoffs

Also I think I’m protesting my answer being wrong lol

Was it Victor Antipin?

https://www.hockey-reference.com/leagues/stats.html At least by way of the average league sv% numbers here, his marks were above average 3/5 times. Maybe there’s a more extensive list that again breaks it down to, still average over median but narrowed down to 25 game starters im missing Hart’s marks were .907 (+) .905 (-) .877 (-) .917 (+) .914 (+)

It’s possible - he was certainly well above mid-pack in the sv% rankings in 3/5 seasons, but I didn’t add up each sv% of all the goalies and average it. As far as I know for skaters when comparing points we’re always listing their ranks among their peers (was top 30 in scoring, etc) and not adding up league points and averaging it out. Technically it’s median but that’s the number id want to use anyways

Tage Skinner Eichel and Pominville?

Like I said, he’s not getting moved for a 2nd. We don’t have to like their price or pay it, but the proposals being suggested were never in the ballpark

You still didn’t explain which 3 seasons are below league average for sv% for goalies who started 25 games - I checked and 3 of the 5 are above average, not below

Yup. Even including all teams only Coyotes get added as a team that’s waited longer. Jets arguable but certainly not a continuous drought as you aren’t “waiting” if you don’t have a team

You know what they say, once you drive the new mystery box off the lot... wait, you guys have me mixing metaphors now Wait, I thought you said 13 for Helle was good

This somehow makes the Sabres playoff drought worse. 17 of these teams have made the *final* since the Sabres last played a playoff game, more than half the league absurd

Ya I mean I could be wrong. Somewhat ironically I was just re-reading your other post again as you sent that, because it had been playing around in my mind when I was at the Dentist. It’s arguments you made therein that sorta informs my thinking on why Hart should/will cost: its the games played. He played over 50 last season. That’s a proven model. We can parse numbers all day, and Hart’s sv% was 40th whatever when looking at every goalie that suited on pads last season, but he was *15th among guys that actually... were good cars*. Guys that we know can put up with the mileage. Guys that can hang with the mileage is what you are paying for. Comries are easily had because you have to guess and extrapolate their numbers. What happened when more was wanted from him? Imo there’s sorta a conflation going in and out of frame in real time in various posts along this thread, there are average/mediocre outputs, and then there are average/mediocre outputs within the confines of a starters workload We aren’t allowed to care about the 23-24 Sabres, specifically We are only renting that year of our lives from God

This is such a good post

I’m much more interested in the speculated Hellebuyck proposals, to be fair I like the valuations there, by way of the Sabres, much better

So, switch places in rd 1 and they convert a 3rd into a 2nd? IMO won’t be enough

How did you determine his sv% was below average this season? I have him at 31 / 79 for goalies playing at least 10 games 19th out of 42 playing at least 30 He ranked 15th among goalies with a starters workload, 41 games. Considering his expected goals against ranked him 15th as well, I’d say ~ 15th for this past year seems about fair I mean.. he ranked 44th out of 107 when you include all goalies to suit up for even a moment, which includes a list littered with guys like “Matthew Berlin”, who faced 1 shot and made 1 save

I dunno, there might be a lot of value in a guy looking to secure said future, rather than a guy who knows he doesn’t have one. Hart is playing for $$$ we know we likely won’t feel pressured into giving him. But he knows someone else would

Smells like what, Martin Short?