Thorny

Currently slated to draft…..8th

Peterka making a case for best F

By signing good veteran players apparently

Got down the YouTube wormhole of fast rushes and stumbled across this. Jack I know but it’s such a fun RJ call. Miss him so much

I would Yup I agree, gotta do it

Today could be a pretty big game tbh I wouldn’t be shocked if they gave up hope with a loss today, having to sit on that bad math over the break. 6-5 month of January, that would be an 89 point pace committed over the course of the easiest stretch of our season. Why would a team that goes for an 89 point pace in that month, and 77 point pace overall, trend for the required 119 point pace going forward? At least if we put up a 7-4, that’s a 104 point pace for the month: at least it makes the 114 pace we’d need the rest of the way, while still incredibly daunting, at least within the realm of possibly if we squint really tightly at the numbers and imagine the up-trend to continue over the rest of the season

Was running the math again today..even if we win the next 4 straight (thus giving us a 5 gamer when we haven’t even got to 3), we’d from that point need to play at a 109 point pace (something only 7 teams did last year) over the final 30 games. Perhaps you’re right that we’d be feeling so good after that we’d be willing to ignore the math: cause it’d still look daunting. So I dunno if it would APPEAR doable but maybe FEEL doable I’m still thinking about moneypuck’s 8.8%. That seems so high to me considering the ground we need to make up and the teams we need to leapfrog still have shot

I don’t know why I just feel they’ll have at least one stretch in them where people start to ignore the math and believe, before the season is out

In January, Sabres had 11 games, 9 of which were against non-playoff teams. Easiest month by far, and we’ve played 10 of the 11 so far. We’ve gone 6-4. Likely needed better than 7-4 here considering the ground we need to make up, but it’s still been a good month with a dub. 6-5 would of course be a different story

This isn’t unusual we are a bad team, but that there’s a tier of putrid below is not uncommon. You often see tiers like this. I don’t consider 27th place passable (nor 24 - I think passable is 16th) but that we can jumps 3 teams if we win and all 3 lose isn’t odd at all.

We’ll have to factor this into the timeline to competitiveness accordingly. This buys the GM a few more years imo

@Hanklike shooting fish in a bucket

I don’t have anything interesting to contribute but I will in fact bookmark this thread in preparation of the inevitable “who even was there?”

Why not? All the kids are doing it It’s absolutely true though and you are right. Just because we can observe a series of poor choices since, doesn’t mean any of them necessarily needed to be made They were a playoff team in 2010. It’s not like the literal universe after that was like “oh, you lost your co-captains, this can’t continue.” Same thing with the tank: we’ve been free to the extent of having the ability to make choices that would get us in the playoffs several times over but the issue is that the decision to tank was a symptom. It’s not cause and effect. But because there’s a common denominator involved in the original decisions, it makes sense they’d make poor decisions moving forward.

They’ve got their professional payouts, they need to learn to be professionals now. Give it time, have some patience: learning how to play hockey takes time. Once they learn the system, we’ll be good It’s only the 4th year of Adams’ tenure. It takes time

Tuch and Krebs Probably like Dahlin more than most

Already up to 8.8% today and we haven’t even dropped the puck! A win today may get us up above 10% or so

The Sabres long stretch of poor opponents finally comes to an end today. We didn’t make up the required ground, but a win today at least makes it a respectable stretch

Attempting to normalize the world-wide anomaly that is the (sports-relative) suffering of the Buffalo Sabres is just gaslighting. If any fans have a right to complain, it’s Sabres fans

I would have guessed the odds to be lower than 7.7. I was happy to see that number

I was merely responding to this: Maybe I’m taking it too literally but my point is that coming within one point last year PROVES it’s reasonably possible for a GM to field a playoff team here. Otherwise, you’d be arguing that you are certain there’s nothing we could have theoretically, possibly have done differently last year to bridge that one point gap. And I know someone wouldn’t possible make an argument like that

It’s not a matter of belief it’s a matter of fact: I’m not making an argument. We missed the playoffs by a solitary point last year. I can mathematically conclude it is well within this franchise’s ability to field a playoff roster

https://buffalonews.com/playoffs-is-the-expectation/article_8b0b754f-4af5-54a2-ae56-0e69a0250198.html “Next year, playoffs is the expectation. We all believe that we will be there, and we know what it takes now." Sure sounds like playoffs were the expectation. Unless there’s a massive disconnect. Disconnect between players and management? Mehhhhhhhhhh wouldn’t worry about it

You are either trying to win, or trying to develop a winner later. “Nothing” isn’t an option. Just fire everyone then - that’s not a valid suggestion, even on a message board. If we weren’t trying to win in 21-22, Adams was therefore, necessarily, managing the team that season as a means to facilitating winning in the future - the facilitation of his plan. That year simply *had* to be a tool for building the future, the endgame: otherwise it would be nothing at all. Is the suggestion that we can’t count that year because Adams *couldn’t* be taking steps during that season towards building and developing and evaluating? Was he not? Of course he was. If you don’t count it you are just writing off a year he fully worked on instituting his plan and then saying that work took place in some imaginary untouchable vacuum because we only choose to measure from the following year. Just…No lol - - - @Brawndo Didn't they *say* playoffs was the expectation, this year? We all said so in the offseason before this latest goal-post moving. If not, fine: I guess they didn’t set playoffs as the expectation until year 4 of Adams’ build (and year 5 of his tenure). But next year is still year 4. In which case, ya, maybe they give Adams a mulligan after next year (I just won’t be around for it). Even in that case, I dunno where you get the 2 or *3* more years after this one thing from. Even if they aren’t counting on playoffs till next year, three more years after this one would be missing this year, missing next (when playoffs is the expectation, if it wasn’t this year), missing the FOLLOWING year (thus missing on expectation at least 2 times (but we all know it’s really 3), and him still coming back. That would be Adams returning for his 7th year as GM, without having a playoff appearance to show for it