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For the record, I think part of buying out Suter was to make sure they can protect Dumba in the expansion draft so if Minnesota is aggressive I don't expect them to need to include Dumba any longer. I think the talk of Rossi, Fiala, one or two firsts and another piece are along the right track. Maybe a final deal of Rossi, Fiala, Greenway and a first could get me excited though I think that's sort of along the "gutting the team" concept since they'd be moving three valuable young forwards in the same deal.

I wouldn’t because we can get just as capable goalies on a bloated UFA market for free

It makes the Sabres getting what they want less likely. It does not make a deal less likely.

Jake Allen’s performance wasn’t worth a 3rd and a 7th last season but we could probably get him for a 3rd or 4th right now if we want. Montreal will want to avoid losing him for nothing.

If Rossi were 200 feet Liger would hate him He’s going to a contender. Parise and the Isles seemed like a match and that still makes sense for them. Suter will take this chance to contend somewhere. He is already getting paid to not play for one team so I’d be shocked if money is his motivation.

The acquiring team not having to honor his upcoming NMC. It is indeed false. The NHL just changed that rule so the no movement clauses have to be honored by the acquiring team.

We don’t know what question was asked because they only use his answer but agreed otherwise.

Josh Allen was ranked the fifth best QB in the NFL by executives surveyed by ESPN. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31800661/ranking-nfl-top-10-quarterbacks-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks Mahomes, Rodgers, Brady, Wilson were ahead of him (in that order). 5. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 9 Age: 25 | Last year's ranking: Unranked Allen wasn't much of a consideration for the top 10 rankings a year ago. Now, the majority of voters have him in their top five after a massive third season in Buffalo. "The growth was pretty impressive," said an NFL offensive coach. "There were times when he was so in command of the offense, and when he's on top of his protections pre-snap, he's incredibly tough to beat." Allen ranked third in the NFL in QBR (81.7) after a pedestrian 49.5 over his first two seasons, which was 27th out of 35 qualified quarterbacks. His 37 touchdown passes surpassed his previous two-year total (30). Evaluators point to his four-touchdown performance on Monday Night Football against the 49ers and his 324 yards in the playoffs vs. the Colts as growth examples. Indy's zone defense made him escape the pocket and throw from the near-sideline, and he handled it all game. "His biggest weakness is also what makes him so good -- his competitiveness, and wanting to make the best play," an AFC scout said. "He'll hold onto the ball a little too long or bail on the pocket too early. He often gets away with that because he's so strong and can break tackles, but against good defenses, he might press, and it gets him into trouble." Dion Dawkins just misses the top ten ranking by NFL executives ESPN put out. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31789857/ranking-nfl-top-10-offensive-tackles-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks Offensive tackles also receiving votes Dion Dawkins, Buffalo Bills: "He's closer to elite than you'd think. He looks like he has a mediocre body, but you'll finish the game and realize he had his way in pass protection." -- AFC scout Tre White came in at number five on their cornerback rankings: https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31771608/ranking-nfl-top-10-cornerbacks-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks 5. Tre'Davious White, Buffalo Bills Highest ranking: 2 | Lowest ranking: 9 Age: 26 | Last year's ranking: 3 White is a coach's dream. He's so smooth in his fundamentals that ESPN NFL analyst and friend of the Top 10 Matt Bowen calls White the Tim Duncan of the NFL. With 15 picks and 54 pass deflections since entering the league in 2017, White is a top-five fixture. "Not a blazer, but very quick," an NFC coordinator said. "Instinctive, great footwork, has the ball skills you want, breaks on the ball well." White can play man or zone equally as effective. One NFC coach pointed out that Buffalo is a team of overachievers in some ways, and White embodies that -- not a Ramsey-type athlete but can be as good as anyone with smarts and staying under control. Somehow not only did neither Bills safety make their way into the top ten of NFL executives who voted ... they weren't even in the honorable mentions. https://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/31776559/ranking-nfl-top-10-safeties-2021-execs-coaches-players-make-their-picks

I imagine this would be a retirement?

Also: you quoted Pimlach twice who specifically has NOT compared him to Hedman but is noting that if others who have mentioned Hedman are correct then he wants Power. SwampD isn't making a comparison. Pi and I are the only ones who were actually making the "comparison" among your quoted posts and both of us mentioned that it's unlikely. Again, there is nothing wrong with the Hedman comparison or praising Power. There is nothing wrong with preferring him. I've never seen anyone here say anything about him that you couldn't google and find four or five experts saying the same thing because it comes from the research we've all done on our own. Nobody thinks Power is the second coming of anything. I like your favorites, as well. Beniers and Eklund very well could be better players. There's no reason for this animosity or torpedoing every post in favor of Power in unnecessary and disingenuous ways.

You're trying to have two different conversations and passing them off as the same thing. Nobody has ever said Power is Hedman. That's just a popular ceiling for him. Nobody on this board is saying he is a lock or even likely to become that. I've never seen anyone mention Lidstrom a single time when discussing Power but maybe I missed it. Now, all of a sudden, it has changed to you hunting down people simply making a comparison. There is absolutely nothing wrong with anyone making the Hedman comparison. It's a fair CEILING projection (meaning incredibly unlikely) just like your Patrice Bergeron comparison for Beniers. Why is it fair to compare your favorite to a Hall of Famer but others cannot?

It has felt like the draft is months away for a while but luckily for all our sanity it’s a week and a half away.

Power, Eklund and Beniers are the picks that wouldn’t give me pause. I am confused by the idea that we somehow don’t need Power, though. We currently have zero high-end defenders. You need two/three to compete in the playoffs. We currently have maybe two or three forwards and that number may go down but if you’re going to count on prospects on d then you have to count on the forward prospects we already have, too.

When I started the draft process I thought Beniers and Guenther were very close with Power very slightly ahead of them. Guenther has definitely taken a dip for me and is only in the picture if we end up with Columbus’ pick at 5 or similar. I said from the beginning Eklund and Kent Johnson are my “I have a feeling” guys who could end up being stars we never really saw coming. Now while I still view Power as the first pick I prefer Eklund right behind him with Beniers barely trailing him. The thing about prospects is there are things we can never know because a lot of development comes after the draft and that’s something that will never be predicted.

I have repeatedly said Hedman is an unrealistic and unlikely ceiling for Power. I didn’t read beyond that because I’m not wasting my time anymore.

Right, I think it’s semantics as to whether you view it as a negative or just something that needs to be worked on.

Nobody actually talks about Power that way, you’re just so sure about your feelings against him that anything in favor of him seems like unreasonable praise. He’s a very good prospect. Just like other prospects he’s got plenty to work on. The way you talk about a lot of prospects is excessive. You say all Brandt Clarke needs to work on is his skating. If that were true he’d be locked in as number one. Then you get into a long list of hyper specific criticisms of Power’s game.

No, they’re prospects. You know every prospect has to work on their game. It’s only a negative if it’s a significant deficiency in their game.

It’s not really worth diving into since that wasn’t a final list by any means but I’ll note that the group posted had four LHD on it so you can replace McCabe with either a lefty or a righty by moving things around if he’s not ready/gets hurt again.

Nothing he does impresses you. You had a little stretch where you were willing to compliment him but you’ve returned to seeking out all good things said about Owen Power and refuting them. Your dedication is admirable. Is the talent at Worlds comparable to the SHL? This is a legit question that I’d need to do some of my own research on but my initial impression is definitely yes.

No it isn’t but I specifically meant I want Liger to coach him

Because teams almost never get their ask this is a good sign for Chicago’s pursuit. If you can get him to sign an extension then your first and a lesser player than the two mentioned then you make the deal.

This is only the third time the award has ever been given to an American

Coach him up.