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Does that calculator account for, ya know, how taxes actually work?

Sometimes I hate being right.

I'll be quite pissed if it's picks and prospects. But I'd still rather have that than a non-elite goalie. If a goalie is involved I could live with it, but not if the goalie is the centerpiece.

Maybe, but the last thing I want in a ROR trade is a goalie, unless it's Lundqvist in his prime. When I look at goalies who would reasonably be traded, none of them interest me as a return for O'Reilly.

Posting on your honeymoon. The Dahlin euphoria is strong with this one. Congrats!

I'd much rather have Parayko and a forward prospect than Parayko and Allen. It's not even close, really.

I think you're gonna be angrier than I am, and I'm poised to be Liger-esque :lol: Jake Allen is not an unquestioned starting goalie.

I guess it depends what they're looking for. If it's team success, we don't have much to offer. But I feel like a lot of these guys will be looking for an opportunity to start, which we can definitely offer, whereas better teams can't. Signing for 1 year, starting, and leveraging that into the next contract might be an attractive option for career backups. I want to be clear, I don't like any of the UFA options. So for me, it's a choice among bad alternatives. Personally, I'd rather take a little worse player for a 1-year deal than a little better player for a 3-year deal. I don't think the difference between our options will mean much of anything in the standings, so I'd prefer to go a route that has no commitment.

That's precisely the problem. His previous best was a .918 in 17 starts in 2015-16. His career average, including his career-best season, is .915. I'll dump his first season in the NHL where he had a whopping 1 start, but he's posted the following: .910, .902, .918, .913, .931. One of those is not like the others. If you're committing to him for 3 years at a decent salary, you're essentially projecting that the outlying year is the real Hutton. I find that highly unlikely. For reference, his career average would have put him at 21s in the league last season among qualified goalies. That's...not good. Bernier, meanwhile, has a career .914, and is drawing (as reported) considerably less interest. Mrazek has a career .911, and has almost no interest. If you think the real Hutton is a .931 guy, then by all means, commit. But that's a bad bet.

Cam Talbot as well. Edit: If we got end up with Hutton, I'd bet it's around 3 years $3.5M. Little higher or lower wouldn't shock me, but it'll be well above what he's worth regardless. Keep in mind, we're bidding against other teams, not like we're buying RFA years here.

Carolina gave Scott Darling a 4-year, $4.15M AAV contract after never starting more than 32 games. He was coming off a 32 start season with a .924 SV%. He started 43 games for Carolina, rocking an awesome .888 SV%. I'm too lazy to look up the rest, but you're looking at around $4M on average for would-be starters.

I do, but it's not like it isn't justified. The entire UFA goalie market sucks! There's no good reason to heavily invest in one mediocrity over another. We're going to sign feces, I've accepted that...but there's no reason to commit to it. Sign cheap feces! Look at some of the comparable contracts unproven starters have signed recently. It's not going to be a bargain deal.

I'm willing to bet it's closer to 3x$4M than 3x2.

Bernier. Mrazek. Joe Blow. Who cares? Signing a mediocrity like Hutton to 3 years is lunacy. He could as easily post a .906 next year (see: below replacement level) as a be league average.

You misspelled "boat anchor" :p

Thing is, as good as Nashville's blue line was, they still weren't a legit contender until they improved the forwards. This current strategy may well set us up to be that.

Signing an equally mediocre goalie to not 3 years? I'm fine with a goalie for 3 years to solidify the position, but Hutton doesn't do that.

The thought of signing Hutton to 3 years is nauseating.

Are you new here? Since when is Pi concerned about being grounded in reality? :p

I love you so much right now I forgive you for continually showing interest in Sam Bennett and Ryan Murray. Let's spoon.

If Parayko is included, I don't really care who the prospect is.

I don't mind Hutton as a temporary solution. However, I despise winning a freaking bidding war for him.

Alex Nylander has been so disappointing, Botterill has stripped him of his heritage. Sort of like when Dark took away the A in Stafford's name.

I think I've said it before, but if I haven't, I will now: if you can't be stupid excited for Dahlin, you're dead inside.

Parayko, Sobotka (cap dump, negative value), mid-tier prospect?