Johnny DangerFace

If he can do it next year as well at a similar level, then he will cement himself as our top goalie prospect

You seriously want the sabres to not draft the rookie that could have the best impact on the team? This isn't a video game, you draft the best players that give you the best chance to win.... Intentionally drafting someone to suck next year wouldn't work and isn't smart either

For me it depends on what they can get for him. If they don't get a fair trade offer I would love for them to resign him

He has sources that say they are trying to trade him by the deadline? Shocking :)

Stafford's Career Year So this topic came up because I wanted to re-learn statistics and wanted a fun topic to learn with. So naturally it came to sports, and for whatever reason stafford is the guinea pig. I took stafford's 492 games and logged each game individually and entered his goals, assists, and shooting percentage* for each game. So yes that means an spreadsheet with 492 rows (fun). I ran two tests for two different questions: Question 1 Was Stafford's 30 goal season (62 games) in 2010 statistically different than the rest of his career? Answer: Yes Using independent t-tests, I took the average goals per game in 2010 (.50) and compared it to the rest of his career (.23) and compared them. Taking into account the sample size (62 vs. 430), not only was this a valid test, but rounded to the nearest thousandth, it has an error chance of .000. This means that yes, staffords 30 goal season was an anomaly and is statistically different than the rest of his career. Question 2 Since Stafford's career year in 2010, is he producing less? Answer: Yes (goal wise) and No (assist wise) Okay so I then grouped staffords first five years in the league including his banner 30 goal 2010 Season. I took his average goals per game (.30) and assists per game (.32). I then compared (independent t-tests) that to his three seasons since his 2010 career year. These past three years he has averaged .21 goals a game and .31 assists per game. As far as goals go, he these past three years he has statistically produced less per game (error chance .001). However his assists per game has remained consistent with his first 5 years and nothing has changed. This test also accounted for sample size differences. For both tests, sample size was more than large enough to run these tests accurately Images Spreadsheet - http://i.imgur.com/GyiLEsH.png Question 1 Results - http://i.imgur.com/64ZLAPP.png Question 2 Results - http://i.imgur.com/jqWJhmv.png *Shooting percentage ended up never getting used because I couldn't figure out how to correctly weight it. If staff had 1 shot and missed and had a shooting percent of 0 percent for a game, but then was 2 for 2 in another game and had a shooting percentage of 100, I couldn't get the average to not be 50%...basically, the more shots he took in a game, the more weight his shooting percentage should be, but i couldnt replicate this.

Miller had six shutouts 2 years ago. So your saying holtby who has been near the too if the league in shutouts the past couple of years has been better than miller? What exactly do you think shutouts predict? How good a season is? How good a goalie is? Or do you just use it to cherry pick that stat because miller hasn't had any the past couple years playing behind a god awful defense.... Most miller haters can't say any excuse this year because he's played great. All they can say is it is an olympic so it doesn't count. But here you are, disregarding every stat people use to judge goalies, and instead you find the one stat that doesn't back up your idea, and continue to bring it up in every thread. If you look at any goalies career stats you'll notice shutouts a random each year with great variance. It's because they depend in so much. No one can argue without shutout logic because it doesn't make sense. Miller is having a great year, just stop

It's just ridiculous and makes no sense. It is trolling in my opinion. Miller has no shutouts he is therefore not good LOL. You think he resigns?

You complaining about how taxpayer money is spent is irrelevant to obamacare. A ton of taxpayer money is wasted. What's your exact point?

"A shutout occurred today. That means it's an indicator of quality of goalie. Miller doesn't have shutouts" Don't you ever wonder why no one else uses number of shutouts to measure quality of goalie?

He hired the guy you should be asking those questions about!

I think vanek partying did this. The Americans wanted to drink Wednesday night, but when they learned getting drunk could hurt them 24-36 hours later, they abstained. But without alcohol in their body, they lacked the pop they needed

Hey if any if those work I would do it (besides miller to Colorado)!

Well as an offensive defensemen he isn't putting up in points in rochester.

Man when I discovered everything bagels a few years ago my mind was blown. So good

Sure.....I hate you and wish you have a terrible day :)

Ahhhh I agree with jjfiveoh! Ummm let me see how to fix this. I bet miller could play drunk better than enroth could because enroths little boy body couldn't handle the alcohol as well.....

I wouldn't be happy as a fan BUT I still don't think it impacts his game at all. He got to sleep off two nights

So vanek got wasted Sunday night, and then played on Tuesday? And people think this effected anything or hurt his trade value? He didn't drink the night before the game. It was 2 nights before

I really doubt we will be seeing their 2014 pick now :)

I'm reinstalling my stats program tommorow so I'll start then.

What happened? I'm at work and can only score watch

So this is the thread where we take a look at some sabre-related statistics. If you have a question that you want statistically analyzed, then bring it up! Completed Stats 1. Was Stafford's 30 goal season (62 games) in 2010 statistically different than the rest of his career? 2. Since Stafford's career year in 2010, is he producing less?

I'm just saying correlations are a statistical measurement, but no ones doing any stats. So they don't mean anything! Booooo that's the nerdy stats guy in me. I'll leave now, go sabres. Ummm go Ulmark

You can't eyeball correlations. Period. Even if they look random. This year may be a correlation, and last year there may not have been meaning they don't contradict each other

Oh man!!! Shut outs measure how good a goalie is!!! For sure