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Not saying you’re wrong with the 2nd half of that sentence but I suspect you are with the 1st. Turris got that much and was at a very similar place at that time of his career: A 26-year-old former top-10 pick centre with 66 goals and 158 points in the past 3 seasons A 27-year-old former top-10 pick centre with 64 goals and 148 points in the past 3 seasons

The difference between this year and 2014 for me is that the 1st wave of the potential new core - Dahlin/Jokiharju/Cozens/Mittelstadt/ Thompson/Asplund - is already here and NHL battle-hardened to a certain extent. And the 2nd wave -Bryson, Samuelsson, Lukkonnen, Laaksonen, Peterka, Quinn, Johnson, Power, Poltapov, Kisakov, Rosen, Levi - is already in the system. This season’s tankfruit - likely a lottery pick, Florida’s 1st, the Eichel return - won’t be joining an empty pipeline. But development remains so crucial; the plum results of the first two waves can’t be more Girgensons and Baileys.

But to be fair, you don’t have much interest in any offer that doesn’t include a potential 1st-line centre, and multiple picks/prospects at least as good as Romanov, but a better fit.

That’s why they have to acquire another centre and the goaltending situation is so indefensible the way it currently stands.

I’ve moved away from the bold. I think Jack was tied to the Sabres by a very slender thread when Adams was hired. Last year was largely about trying to make sure the thread wouldn’t break, but it did. I mean sure the Sabres could have prevented things from getting to this point, if that’s your point, but they didn’t. The only thing they could have done differently was traded him Sam and Risto for now instead of future.

Things can change in 10 months, but as of this moment, yes.

Good take. Guys like Butcher, Hagg, Bjork, Hinostroza and Caggiula might not be very good, but they crave the opportunity Buffalo provides - they kinda arrive with the same attitude the Vegas expansion group did. The same certainly was true for the kids Granato rode down the stretch - they were all hungry for a chance to carve their own space. It’s a nicer mix off the ice than on it and a better foundation upon which to build “culture.”

We’ve been conditioned by Ranger Twitter to think GMs are lowballing Adams. It could also be true that the asks really are too high.

It’s OK to speculate in this thread again, right? To Montreal: Sean Monahan To Calgary: Jack Eichel To Buffalo: Zary, Romanov, Poehling, Calgary 1st, Montreal 2nd, Calgary 3rd. This is a direct lift from the Ott/Col/Nsh Duchene trade. The pieces correspond very well and the Kotkaniemi situation has put Montreal in the need to make a move.

Don't remember this being posted/discussed: “When it happened and I found out it was Buffalo, I was super excited,” Butcher, who is entering the final year of his contract, told The Buffalo News during a recent phone interview. “Before coming to New Jersey and I was leaving college as a free agent, I couldn’t speak enough about the Pegulas and everything they have going there, the effort and first-class organization that they’re running. It’s pretty special to be traded to such a place that values hockey, especially the fans. That’s why I was very excited when I found out it was the Sabres.” “A lot of familiarity, a lot of respect for him,” Butcher said of Granato. “I was really excited when he got the job and that I’m getting the chance to play for him again. … He loves smart hockey players. He loves playing fast, having the puck and being on the attack. Those are all strengths of my game. That’s why I think that when he was my coach we jelled well together because I think we see the game very similarly.” “It’s huge motivation for me because I know I belong in this league,” said Butcher. “I know I can play valuable minutes every night. It’s huge motivation for me to prove people wrong about myself and get back out there and have a bounce-back year and just establish myself again. … I’m excited, I’m really motivated and ready to get to Buffalo to get started soon and get after it.” https://buffalonews.com/sports/sabres/new-sabres-defenseman-will-butcher-motivated-to-prove-people-wrong-this-season/article_e5f49446-04da-11ec-93f3-d3bee9312db0.html Sounds like Lindy Ruff wasn't a fan, and Butcher lost his job/role to rookie Ty Smith. He was a healthy scratch for the first nine games of the season, and he sat for 18 consecutive games from March 7 through April 11. What are the expectations for this guy?

Is there a twisted world where Jack’s surgery actually helps facilitate a trade? Im speaking to a team like Vegas who can put Jack in IR and circumvent the cap a la Tampa and Kucherov.

Does it not seem likely that the subject of the secret NHL/NHLPA Eichel summit was to break the impasse over Eichel’s course of treatment and allow him to begin the process of getting healthy again? This news seems to indicate mission accomplished. And, coupled with the Fish firing, likely not accomplished to Jack’s satisfaction. In other words, I suspect that as far as the surgery goes, it was made clear the Sabres are in control and Jack has caved.

Desired results is getting Eichel traded. Why do you think that means the Sabres caving rather than the suitors upping their offers It could go either way but I’m inclined to think it will go both, meaning compromise

This seems myopic. Brisson is just as likely to improve Eichel’s return as he is to back Adams into some kind of corner.

And the analogy applies to any woman. There's just a lot higher stakes involved with my wife's mother than with that lady in the grocery store lineup.

"Jack would be happy to come to Anaheim and will follow the course of treatment your doctors prescribe. All he wants is for you to hear him out on why he prefers disc replacement." I am not sure how anyone could not think hearing those words from someone he trusts might influence Bob Murray off the fence. Pat Brisson could be that person. Maybe Peter Fish was not. It's just an example of how this might help. What do people think agents actually do?

I agree. I am suggesting that it is in Adams' best interest to stay on very good terms with Pat, just like it is my best interest to stay on good terms with my mother-in-law.

A while back, in the context of Drury and an Eichel trade, I posted about the influence agents have and got mocked a bit for it. Anyone not think images of Owen Power are burrowing into Kevyn Adams' brain every time he talks Eichel with Brisson?

Someone who wasn't trying to send him to New York? I've always liked you And I've always liked you. It hurts when you don't read my posts more than you will ever know. Mr. Owen Power who also is a client of Mr. Brisson Sr? I'm pretty sure someone posted that somewhere?

I think the grind has affected me enough that I accept he has to go. Once you get there, it’s easy to say “they waited this long, that’s obviously the most they could have got.” Even if the return itself pisses me off. New agent allows Jack to hit the reset button and blame Fish for everything. I would be shocked if he took the extreme route you suggest under Brisson. Brisson will talk to the Sabres, talk to the suitors, talk to Jack and figure out why the process has broken down. And if there’s a path out, he has the clout to put all parties in it.

I think there is more evidence supporting this hypothesis than Marco Rossi getting 65 points this year, but your mileage may vary. 😜

That Philbony comment is so spot on. ( @Thorny fits with what we were just talking about) Hopefully Brisson can rehabilitate Jack’s value.

Yes, this has been my personal opinion. I lot of my recent posts are me trying to reconcile that opinion with the fact that GMs don’t seem to share it. Asking myself why that is, and throwing out possible answers. Unlike most hockey fans, I don’t think all GMs are idiots. So my default tends to be that they have information I don’t.

Brisson is also Owen Power’s agent. Personally, I see this as a move that could shake loose the logjam. Brisson has way more clout and connections than Fish. He could bridge communication gaps and leverage something here.

So we’re talking Tkachuk, Zary, Pelletier and a 1st, or holding out for Monahan, Zary and a 1st? Oh, I think if I was Calgary’s owner, I’d authorize paying top-10 price given the state of my franchise. My GM would be smart to talk me out of it though. Does an 80-point scorer means Auston Matthews and 70-point scorer means Mark Schiefele?