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I think it means it’s a deal that each side would do, but can’t because of salaries. The delay in closing the deal is addressing that. (See my wild speculation up-thread)

Putting my own spin on, but Tuch and a conditional 1st ain’t getting it done, no way, no how, so IMO pretty clearly the former.

Sean Monahan makes $6.3, plays centre and is a spare part for the Flames at the moment. The Flames have been scouting the Sabres. Dots are fun.

No holes in their lineup. Tuch is hurt, Krebs is their 12/13 forward and the other two are prospects. right now the Knight have $5.7 in LTIR space to acquire salary, the Sabres are using Jack's $10 million to stay $5.5 above the cap floor.

The other move is the Sabres acquiring a $5 million salary to stay above the floor, then putting Jack on LTIR. Once Jack is on LTIR, he doesn't affect the Knights' cap at all. Their issues happens when Stone and Jack come off LTIR. But maybe they have plans to Kucherov one or both.

Asplund is good, but I don't yet consider him dangerous.

Me too. If that was actually the framework, I suspect that framework still exists. The reason the trigger is not pulled is because the teams would have to make the necessary cap moves to accommodate that framework. Vegas needs to free up $4-5 million, Buffalo to add a similar amount.

MIttlestadt and Olofsson (maybe Tage?) are really the only forwards on this team who are in any way shape or form dangerous He has been the best of the JAG forwards, IMO (Hinostroza, Eakin, Bjork, Hayden being the others) For the record, I think of Sabres in three groups: the JAGs who are space fillers (Hagg, Pysyk, Butcher, Miller, Wolanin, Tokarski), the Vets who have leadership roles and/or may be around for a while (Skinner, Okposo, Girgs, Anderson), and the Kids who have to carve themselves a role on this team moving forward (Asplund, Thompson, Olofsson, Ruotsalainen, Cozens, Dahlin, Bryson, Jokiharju, Murray and Mitts)

Looks like limit of 2 teams retaining per contract, maximum 50 per cent of the contract retained, although it doesn't clarify if that's per team or per contract. https://puckpedia.com/salary-cap/retained-salary

Could the Sabres “hide” a player, or players for Vegas? For example, acquire Theodore for a pick, eat half his salary, then send him back along with Eichel for Smith and prospects and picks? Or how about laundering a player through another franchise? Vegas trades Smith to Arizona, who flips him to Buffalo at 50 %, who then eats another 50 % and sends him back to the Knights?

Does anybody else get Robert Thomas vibes with Krebs? Meaning when we were talking ROR with St. Louis, he was the guy we had grudgingly settled on as the minimum, but we had to settle for a lesser Tage instead?

To be fair, he’s also scored 10 points in 7 minor league games and had 43 in 24 junior games last year.

Starting to see the fit…😜

I would think that Eichel would be a sign that Calgary wants to re-sign Gaudreau and an enticement for him to stay. There is not a "developing Eichel" out there, or at least not one on the market. Zegras is not on the market. Who is a developing Eichel you think we might get?

He'll be the centrepiece of the deal if they can't get a better centrepiece. I think you're right that some are overrating him, but I also think he is better than you give him credit for. The most recent Canada WJC team was among the best I've ever seen, gold medal game notwithstanding. Krebs was their 2nd leading scorer. On that team, Cozens was a Drury, Quinn a Hecht and Krebs a Pominville. Not until we realized what teams were actually offering.

We were never getting Eichel's replacement in this deal. It was always fingers crossed we might get a Reinhart.

I can't wait that long.

As far as I can see it is moving him up the lineup. I laugh when I hear people referring to the Girgensons line as the 4th line. It's pretty clearly the 2nd line.

How often do players put up 7 points in a Q game?

Holy *****! That’s impressive no matter what the competition.

Fans are reacting prematurely on Cozens. He was bad against the Ducks. But he was pretty good against the Lightning and the Devils. He’s done some bad things and some good things. We all expected him to be up and down. He’s pacing for more than 30 points and he has positive possession numbers, which seems to be more or less at the Mendoza line for staying up and learning by doing. More to the point, he’s been one of our 12 best forwards. Maybe that changes, but it could change for the good as easily as the bad. Patience.

Olofsson is a top 6 forward. He has 39 goals and 86 points in 123 NHL games. Mitts may establish himself as one this year. Cozens, Quinn, Peterka, Rosen and Poltapov have that potential. We hope to add 2 more from an Eichel trade and this year’s top pick. He’s right in terms of there being no Eichels and no sure things in that group. But Im hopeful there may be enough Sam Reinharts and a Ryan O’Reilly or 2.

They signed Whitecloud to term, making sure their top 4 is locked up, and Hutton to fill out their 3rd pair. That makes a D prospect expendable. They nabbed Amadio to be a depth C. That makes a centre expendable. They need to move about $5 million. That’s Theodore or Smith. Could Krebs, Hague, Smith and a 1st actually have been the ask all summer and Vegas has finally decided to pay? Or maybe maybe Adams conceded a lesser prospect? Maybe conditions on the pick based on Jack’s health?

Next they are going to leak a name that is interesting as a 2ndary piece, say Tuch. And we’ll get kinda excited, as in “ooh, Tuch and Krebs and a 1st isn’t a bad haul.” And then we will find out that Tuch is the main piece. There is no Krebs and no 1st. That’s how it worked with Reinhart. That’s how it worked with O’Reilly.