7+6=13

Teams interested: you do realize that next July, if he doesn't want to play for you, you don't get him, right? This should be a threat to them, not us.

Want To Be Here?

When you say full of crap, are you meaning he knows he should have done more but he himself realizes he was incompetent to do so?

That's just not accurate. It's emotional. It's the exact discipline that KA should have enacted this off season. I'm glad he did because the enticement had to be there. There's going to be a ton of pressure on him as he has to do the worst of the worst, in order for us to get better. Edit: in order to have a chance to get better

Every one of the points numbered are coming from a lack of understanding on what has to happen here and should have been fully expected.

Good point

You might be Wright but I doubt he'd do all this for a 16% chance of getting one player.

Yeah, we agree on the goalie part. I posted in the tank thread, that's the only thing I'd spend marginally on. An adequate tender for the short term. It's hard though because I'm not giving up any real assets and it's a down year for free agency goaltending.

This is exactly what KA should be doing with free agency, absolutely nothing. For once, we're doing it right. At some point the time line to spend the money has to be appropriate. Otherwise we're right back where we were. Totally suck and have no cap. The only thing we should be doing is finding an adequate short term goalie. That's the only thing I'd be willing to marginally spend on.

We've never seen anything like Allen.

I agree and think that was the #1 issue since Sam was drafted. We got nearly nothing from players through the system. That's the travesty here. We haven't iced a quality 2nd and 3rd line in years. Free agency ain't fixing that. It's literally too many spots.

Of course but that may be the most difficult thing in the NHL to do and times that by whatever for us. Who's coming here unless they're washed up and have little options elsewhere? Especially when there's now a complete reset at what little we had/have at the top.

We're in the same line of thinking. Only thing is, that's extremely difficult to do. Players with those type of qualities aren't going to come here easily. Those are exactly the type of players contenders are also looking for. Towards the end of their careers, cost controlled but still have enough game to play well. How do we get them here? To add, we got poor leadership from our best players. Yes the losing wore players down but it was a toxic mix. It's just got to be redone.

What did you expect was going to happen? Did you actually think we were getting better significantly this off season? We all know, as terrible as it is, that the only way out of this is developing the team through the young talent. Not signing free agents. Everything we should be doing is for future considerations. Doing anything significant for the now is, IMO, not only useless but prolongs being bad.

Perfectly said.

Totally agree and exactly my point. With the added comment that I wouldn't want KA to pay him more with more term. Overpaying to keep decent players at some point has to stop. There's just no good way out of this except to wait for all these young players to define what we'll be.

That likely played a part. Back to KA, we just don't know what the communication was from his agent. If he needed much more money and term to endure the losing and potential risk of tarnishing his value until things can get better, it may have been the prudent thing to not go that far. Even though the immediate alternative is awful.

Then why wasn't he paid like it? No way you're getting a top 10-15 for 5 mil.

Let's not turn on each other, especially over a mediocre goalie.

Wasn't Bernier signed to a two year deal, then traded to Carolina? We didn't have a goaltender to send back to them, so I don't think we had anything that would work.

I said FA. There's not a trade I wish we did either. I said FA. There's not a trade I wish we did either.

Slim pickings for goaltenders this FA. Just our luck.

Pagnotta says there's no concern between the Panthers and Samson's agent about getting a long-term deal done. Samson is "absolutely pumped".

Oh so you picture Sam and pumped together?

Unless they way over pay, which is likely for him to give up the opportunity at restricted free agency. Then they paid dearly.