Patty16

you can retain salary in a trade. So its possible to trade Vinny and $5m of his salary. I dont believe there are length limits either. Vinny is old for a premier center and has been hurt. I wouldn't be excited about that return.

or they dont want to keep them together. I sure dont.

He makes the morning show almost unlistenable with his overuse of the word "like" and talking over everyone else. He also claimed coaching doesnt matter in the NFL, but I digress. He loves his advanced statistics, but they only go so far. He is failing to grasp the concept this team is NOT in rebuild mode. They arent going to trade all their pieces for draft picks and teenagers.

WGR, home of the Sabres and dynamite analysis.

Yea I agree. I also don't see them dumping rentals for just picks, unless there's a plan to flip the picks for players. TG didnt spend all that money on FAs and convince Regher to come here to rebuild for another 5 years.

despite the sentiment to the contrary, I don't think this team will be blown up. they may move a piece a two at the deadline and maybe another during the summer.

sure using anecdotal evidence in this instance works, it mattered because they scored. In every instance where a team scores it matters. The point isnt that they never matter, its that we dont need to burn the house down if we arent very good at them. It only matters on a few key faceoffs. They best FO men are still not much better than a coin flip.

He has to wait for the market to be set...........

Eddie, who you mentioned, is, and you put him in that category. Point is that league wide he's considered one of the best goalies whether or not he fits an arbitrary definition of elite.

Yea he's as good as some HOF'ers but not as good as some other HOF'ers?? This banter back and forth about what is elite or not is without any purpose. He is viewed around the league as in the top tier of goalies and if he became a FA he would get a ton of attention.

This is it precisely. And Trading away pieces for #1's that might hit a few years down the road is not what this team has stated its goal is right now. You need to get some NHL ready players in return. #1 picks in the NHL arent as valuable as the NFL and if its not a top 5 pick you are getting a project.

Correct.

Listening to JW you'd think a lot of ridiculous things.

Yea exactly. He's pretty far off. Fans need to give the kid time. He's a boy playing amongst men. He doesnt have the skating ability to overcome that right now. No one. If they acquired other Center talent he would have never made this roster. I have been saying it since camp, this kid doesnt look ready. yet.

Grigs has looked more like a Peugeot than a used Porsche. He's young and physically underdeveloped. Give him time. He's just not ready and Leino wouldnt be enough. He got a taste of the NHL, no he can go back to Juniors, work on his skating, his game and play some Mins. He was being outplayed by journeymen. It's not the end of the world.

Everyone is over thinking this. The kid isnt NHL ready, if you have any doubt take a look at the kids picked ahead of him, they are lightyears ahead of him. The contract issue isnt, it's simply not that big of a deal that they "burned a year", if he's good and the savior you're paying him either way. He still has a long way to go before that should be a concern.

It does matter to some players, they arent factory workers but they arent robots either. See Sheldon Souray, or Mr. Underwood in NSH etc. So no, its not complete BS. They are not on the road half the year, most teams fly back after the game, especially on the East Coast, so living in the same city as your spouse and family does play a role. Its the part of the reason players ask for a NTC.

Interesting since one of those cucumbers has a NTC and wouldnt leave his farm for anything, certainly not to join a sinking ship.

yea but your plan is limited by your talent.

Its his system.... we can just fire him, it worked for LA and Pitt and ......

maybe they are tuning out Rolston.... its gotta be the coaching right.......

correct. And he's getting one on one coaching sessions off the ice with the focus on his skating. The rookies having a ton of success are better skaters at this point, even look at Flynn, kid has no where near the talent but has got some giddyup.

yea its weird for sure. But they are playing better than he was.

He was his brother's personal trainer.... who happened to be a pretty good NHLer. Say what you will but this is just a ridiculous statement.

they dont have the horses to run and gun and play offensive.