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What have we heard about ROR antics since? Were we treated to ROR antics prior to his DWI incident? I think ROR released a video on how to train and on leadership prior to this. What did we know about Kane prior to this? Do we need to recount the antics? A repeat "offensive person" is a repeat "offensive person" regardless of skin color. And, frankly, screw your attempt at injecting white-guilt into this conversation. This board is far better than that.

Excuse you, what exactly has Obama wanted that was obstructed? And, really, for eight years, a Trump-led birther movement has gotten in Obama's way? Yeah, let's re-hash the infinitely re-hashed. "Hands up, don't shoot" is a myth, created to foment division. Led by Soros, condoned by the Democrat party. This is ridiculous. Add in immigration, health care chaos, and other, myriad small issues, it adds up to an obvious, intentional attempt to break the country down. Books have been written on how to this, speeches made outlining this strategy. Some of you are like the nobility in France and England, putting your faith in the royalty to "do the right thing" when people suffer and die around you. But you view those people as a different class - you're the cool class, wanting to be popular, or least don't want to be unpopular. You aren't brave enough (or, as you'd say, bat-sh$t crazy enough) to see things any differently - to take the FACTS and HISTORY and piece them together in any other way except the way the keeps you in the graces of the elite, no matter how much they don't notice you. You're conformists - you conform to serve yourself, to the peril of the people around you, your country, your neighbors, even your family. It's obvious - Hillary gets a pass that would have taken down lesser people a long time ago. Obama could easily take control of many of these issues and almost instantly make them better. He does not. Instead he keeps the myth going. Who here really believes the cops are out of control and are hunting down black people? Do you know any cops? WTF. Check it: the scene, downtown Dallas, Texas. A huge crowd marching through the street, shouting "stop shooting us, down with pigs, shoot the police...." Shots ring out, everyone panics - and run behind the police for safety - expecting the very people they were protesting against jump in to save them. That's fu%king crazy right there.

...and manage Kane's behavior as best as possible until that point. So, time passes and Kane is "quiet" enough that his trade value raises high enough, or he becomes an expansion sacrifice for the team. In either scenario he benefits the team.

Okay. If that's true, it doesn't really change the theory.

Of course.

You're describing the difference between a person alone versus and person amongst a group. The person alone is the person defined.

I think Vesey's ELC would be two years.

Yeah, it's based on a fabrication. Once you wrap your head around the concept that the Obama administration has created and condoned these conditions, everything rolls down hill. Occam's razor. Yes, I know, it will never happen here. Wish I could remember a great quote I heard not too long about people who willfully deny the reality around them - but it was great. All other countries just want to love us, the USA will always exist as the USA, our government can't possibly want more control over the people, people don't kill people - guns kill people. Reading this thread alone, you'd think there is a significant (read: over 5%) number of the police force lock-and-loaded and ready to kill any black dude they see. Ridiculous posturing and, frankly, fully bought and owned by the NWO movement.

The internet is a reflection of people. People are bitter and uninviting in general. If people were otherwise, so would be the internet.

That was you, huh? You sound like you look. I don't know if this has been brought up already, but it occurred to me that what they're REALLY negotiating is the not the ELC, but the RFA contract to follow. Other than line-mates, usage, and surrounds, it's likely what Vesey is interested to hear about is "what will you do, or what position will we all be in, when the ELC ends?" For all we know, they are looking for a contract extension six months into his ELC.

I had thought about that a while ago and figured A) probably not a lot o' money in it and B) if I'm charging, I'm liable for copyright issues.

Here, I made you an avatar.

I think you should go all vigilante on him. You know where he lives.

Yeah, but P. Kane was guilty regardless of the outcome. Don't you remember? The people prosecuting him (P. Kane) before the DA made his final statement were right all along.

I hope you and TBPhD aren't implying my reaction to "'Merica"/"'Murica" is gut-level and without reason.

I thought Kane was figuring out how to be effective with Jack and Samson toward the end of last season. Might be better to try an Ennis/Vesey, ROR, Okposo combination to start the year.

Kane, we know, can be a puck-hog. Okposo, it's reported in this thread, is accused of being a puck-hog. Do we really want two puck-hogs on the same line?

Third line centre? Because that's about the only place for him unless you move ROR to a wing. All I have seen in the fantasy lines is ROR as centre.

Yup.

No way, he's out.

That's it. He's out.

This absolutely addresses the matter. A gold star sticker for you!

I saw three different fireworks displays this year. Last night's in Boston, NY was the best. Whoever did that show "gets" fireworks. As you can imagine, there were lots of little kids around. There was a group near us, and I could hear everything the kids were saying. When something cool happened, they would say "'Murica!" I was f***ing disgusted at all of you cool kids who think that phrase is cute and harmless.