SwampD
-
Posts
30,796 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by SwampD
-
-
Bulleit Rye manhattan. Where have you been all my,… well, this month, anyway?
I like things that taste tasty.
-
Article 49.
Nowhere in there does it say you have to make more next year than you did the last. All it says is that the the teams that fall under the 75% of the league average have to submit a 3 year plan to improve their revenue. And that only pertains to regular season gate revenue.
I'll ask it again. Does anyone know positively that if the Sabres didn't raise their prices, would they fall into that category and be subject to this revue?
This is a valid point that PA brings up.
-
Ted Black has said this obligation is unwritten. Doesn't mean it's not real, of course. My point is that if they had wanted to hold the line on ticket prices this year, as a gesture to the suffering fans, they could have. The league would not have torn up their revenue sharing check. How would it wash out? Maybe if ticket prices don't go up, people spend more on merchandise and concessions, and those precious revenues still go up.
Maybe revenue-sharing with the players and revenue-sharing among teams is getting mixed up here, I don't know why there's this annual kerfuffle.
Because it's easier to make fun of you than it is to question the motives of the current administration.
And wouldn't paying AHL salaries instead of actual NHL salaries like they did all year be considered a way to increase revenue? (Hey, there's a new question. Do they only share revenue or is it profits?)
-
Old Sugar Packets.
Status Whoa.
-
They do. They have to submit a plan every year to raise revenues to share with the players. Even though the obligation is incentivized, there is no way to opt out in good faith.
Is raising ticket prices the only way to increase revenue? If so, why don't we just assume that ticket prices have to and will go up every year? Something doesn't add up for me on this.
-
Everyone is assuming that the Sabres had to raise the ticket prices this year in order to meet the CBA requirement. Does anyone know if they actually had to, or is it easier to just attack PA?
-
I just don't get the need to put value on something that someone else is buying. There is only one number that is important. At what price do enough people purchase tickets to maximize the team's income?
Anyone trying to place a value on why I and the rest of us buy tickets or what satisfaction we gain from the same is ridiculous. We all do it for a variety of reasons and those that choose not to purchase them also have their own reasons. Any other opinion on what we do with our money is condescending and insulting.
It does affect us as well, though. When we go to games we are usually buying resold tickets, no?
-
Smehlik Zhitnik
-
I'm actually excited to watch a hockey game.
This feels weird.
-
We are either talking about different things or you missed the first post. The real relevant part of that article is maybe this:
"What’s obvious is scoring is way down, and it’s not coming back without substantial change. If you pull out the 16 empty netters in the 46 games played in Round 1, you’re left with only 4.7 goals per game, one of the lowest rates in league history. (The last regular season with scoring that low was in the 1930s.)
What that’s doing is creating situations like the one in Ottawa on Sunday, where a fluky goal against and a blown goal call decided an elimination game because that’s all the scoring there was."
Are you also pulling out the empty netter from the ones you are comparing it to? If not, that's pretty stupid.
Has the hockey really been that bad. I've been really enjoying these playoffs and am having a hard time trying to figure out what everyone is complaining about. Scoring goes up, scoring goes down. That's just the way it is. I don't want some knee-jerk reaction because people are crying about not hearing the goal horn enough this season.
I don't want bigger nets.
-
Well, there is that. Terry said early on he didn't want to come into town as this multibillionaire and raise ticket prices. I think the business side won that argument for the reason you cite. The bean counters saw that demand was high and that tickets were relatively underpriced. Terry might have said what he said about drilling a new well if he wanted to make money, but others were always going to run it like a business on his behalf. The Blacks and Sawyers of the world don't do it any other way.
Some people like X. will say the Sabres have an obligation to the industry and to the players to grow revenue. It's unwritten; it's certainly not in the CBA. And it's fair to say of course revenues have to go up. Everything goes up, everywhere, all the time.
Others will say the Sabres are forced to raise prices in order to qualify for revenue sharing. That's not true. You qualify for revenue sharing based on a formula. Once you receive revenue sharing, if you don't reach 75% of the average league gate revenue, certain things kick in. They're not as punishing as in the old CBA. For example, you have to submit a three-year plan for increasing your revenue to the Revenue Sharing Oversight Committee. But the idea is for the team to be helped, not be punished. Teams can even get grants from the Industry Growth Fund. So it's not end of times if a team falls short of that 75% target. You don't lose your revenue sharing.
Bottom line for me — and, again, it's based on a layman's reading of the CBA; if I'm wrong please tell me how I'm wrong and please cite the CBA — is that Sabres didn't have to raise ticket prices again after such a historically bad season. They didn't have to, but they did. Like you said, why wouldn't they? The right thing to do, the one-time symbolic gesture, is the last thing on these people's minds. Ham-handed as usual.
Buffalo is just behind the times. With it's revitalized downtown, you now get to witness first hand the division of wealth that all the other major US cities have enjoyed for years.
-
Tracking packages online from FedEx. It's like following Santa's sleigh in real time.
-
My girlfriend and I are doing that with re-watching the entire 3rd rock from the Sun series. It's on Netflix and hulu plus although Netflix is better with the no commercials. Not a bad way to spend an evening staying in when you are caught up on everything from the dvr.Before we starting re-watching it I don't think I had seen the show in 10 years and it's still funny.
I'm in on 3rd Rock. I watched the first 4 episodes tonight because of your post. I might need to rewatch them with the wife, though. Pretty sure she's going to want to watch them. What a great show.
-
He's got two first names.
#don'ttrusthim
:lol:
-
My motto is, why crap for free when you can get paid to do it?
I'm with you. Always use the company letterhead.
-
When did everyone's ego get so fragile? Dancing around them all is exhausting.
-
Whaley wouldn't be here....I like his passion, but he is on year 19 of the 20 year Ginzu Warranty.....
Someone said that Pegula didn't send the Sabres into the shitter. The "brilliant rebuilding plan" was forced on Pegula after his mistakes when he took over the team. There was no other option. All i did was point out the exact same gameplan is being used by Pegula for year 1 of the Bills. The Bills have a better shot at it, but I also should be on this team at O-Line over Whaley's 2nd and 5th round picks last year.
I agree with all of it.
Although what would this board have said if Pegula hired Barry Melrose and brought in Matt Cooke and Sean Avery?
I don't know why but for some reason I can see his approach working in football, where it might not in hockey. I don't know why I think that, I just do.
And I need to amend my thought on the no presser thing, not only do I not care, I actually prefer their silence.
-
Me thinks those free hats from Labatts found their way to many an indigent person
Well, I have two of them.
-
Twitter sucks.
:devil:
-
Sports is entertainment - it really doesn't require a political level of scrutiny as if it were a public trust.
But what I do wonder is why the NEWS hasn't transitioned to more things like this:
http://www.tsn.ca/off-season-game-plan-buffalo-sabres-1.267947
It seems Scott Cullen did some pretty good work without the now familiar complaints that the team isn't helping reporters write their stories. Cover the league. Cover how other teams rebuilt. Cover the available free agents. Cover the available coaches. Ask McClellan directly if he is interested in the Buffalo job. .
It seems plain to me that without the season ending league-wide many of the bigger questions don't have answers yet.
The obvious answer is the team needs to get better at every position. That can be done in a statement without a presser.
Good post.
-
In my 20+ years of living in the tri-state area, I can't remember ever seeing or hearing an EOY presser for either the Devils, Islanders or Rangers, or hearing or reading about anything said in them, or hearing or reading people complain about what was or wasn't said in any of them,… if they even had them.
I just don't know what more could have been said that wasn't already. The Sabres don't owe me (or Mike) anything.
-
Watch the end of the video. The league did a great job of contrasting this hit to other Kronwall hits.
I think they finally got something right. Wow.
Well, at least two of them. He jumps into his hits way more often than he doesn't.
-
This is still a good line, though.
"Still, I’ll say this for the Sabres. They did one thing right as the season wound down: At least this year, they didn’t announce an increase in ticket prices on Fan Appreciation Night."
-
I have always thought those EOY pressers to be really stupid. I don't care one bit that they are not having one.
Sorry, Mike.
Season Ticket Renewals
in The Aud Club
Posted · Edited by SumpfV
This is correct. So my thinking is that Black mispoke. Maybe he meant that they have to raise prices to NOT qualify.
Quick question, you said that the Sabres have never fallen below the 75% mark, but haven't they received revenue sharing before? How could they have if they didn't fall below that mark or was it under a different CBA?