PASabreFan

The what now? That's what STH stands for?

For anyone who wants more info., don't be too afraid of reading the full convo. For once I didn't regret it.

No! Wtf.

There's room on the aggrievers' bandwagon!

Cnn.com has an interview up with Damar's uncle. Damar is being kept on his belly to aid in breathing. This is something we heard a lot about as the pandemic wore on. "Trending upwards," says Unc.

Adams addressing reporters.

Oh now do you aggrieve!

Thought I had major suspension issues in my car. Turned out loose heat shield. 20 bucks!

Interesting.

Well duh. I knew that. (Yeah right lol.) I guess my question was why he would need a defibrillator in the future.

Interesting. Why the defibrillator?

Bills statement says heartbeat was restored on the field, so that seems to rule out complete flatline asystole no? Presumably the AED restored it. All speculation from folks like Dr. Gupta is that he went into vfib.

TIL if the heart is fluttering or quivering or fibrillating it's still cardiac arrest. Blood is not flowing.

Watched the Pronger video briefly. Wasn't sure if or when he got CPR. Seems like an NHL player fairly recently had to get CPR on the bench.

Big pushback from the NFL.

This somehow falls flat for me. The idea of CPR is to keep the blood and oxygen flowing. And remember he got CPR from people who are very highly trained at it. Not sure if he got breaths or not and it might not matter that much as compression only CPR is urged in the general public. That said it's certainly not the ideal way for the body to get oxygen (good start the day with a no ***** sherlock statement).

If people want to believe that the league heartlessly wanted to force the teams to play before the two coaches heroically saved the day, I can't stop them.

You are a good man but I disagree. The young man is still with us. And I have a feeling today's going to be a good day on all fronts.

Question for the pros. With blood flow stopped (or inadequate in the case of vfib), if CPR started almost immediately and he got defibrillated quickly, why wouldn't we expect a full recovery? Are the cardiac arrest mentions in the media necessarily accurate? Today is brush up on CPR day.

Wire says league official Troy Vincent instructed coaches to take teams to the lockerroom. Apparently no update on Damar tonight. Some players have remained in Cincy.

CNN about to have former Bill and current sportscaster Coy Wire on. He was just on a briefing call the NFL gave to select media.

Doctor on MSNBC with no knowledge of the situation urges optimism for a full recovery. Mixed message there but we'll take it.

I'm surprised to realize I'm not cynical enough to believe that.

Understandable. I told someone a bit ago I find it harder with advancing age to enjoy these contact sports. That's hockey too of course.

Exactly.