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Rational, and offers a bit of hope; seems like it would take a near miracle for even this to happen.

Also 2x the forwards play so 20-16 isn’t a good ratio anyways

I’d be good with this provided we then package futures for a d-man with the ability to play top 4 - even if it’s sans Byram upside. At least that way we are still seeing one outright upgrade on roster. (Peterka essentially swapped for Holloway, but Byram out the door and 2 new D-men brought in, Kesselring and the one we traded the futures for.) I say “good with it” but realistically was thinking we needed at least one unquestioned upgrade and both F and D. But, at least we’d have something. Imo the rub is that we need to make at least one futures trade: be it for the D man after trading Byram for Holloway in this scenario, or somehow for a F if we keep Byram. Benson - Kulich - Thompson Holloway - Norris - Tuch Zucker - McLeod - Quinn Greenway - Krebs - Doan ..is back to reasonable, provided Dahlin - Futures trade Power - Kesselring Samuelsson - Timmins Kesselring would be an outright upgrade on our second pair and I’d look at this roster and say it’s improved on paper from last year by a bit. Not close to enough, but not as flabbergasting

This is Rangers fan level delusion. Please adjust your expectations.

Thanks. It's just kind hard to see in that fast paced video without an announcer.

Not all draft picks are created equal.

They have 20 forwards in the pipeline, 16 defenders, 5 goalies. https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/53/buffalo-sabres/in-the-system

Fortons comments were... dumb. They were dumb. And I like mrtka just fine.

I think Norris is getting the 1c job but yes, Kulich could slide to lw.

https://www.nhl.com/sabres/news/buffalo-sabres-2025-development-camp-roster

I wish I could tell who's who. There's some pretty nice plays being made there.

The Sabres are on record as thinking he will be worse than Radim Mrtka. It will be interesting to see how that quote ages.

Can’t argue, haven’t seen him play. But he played 25 NHL games for a coach named Lindy Ruff, who used to use Andrew Peters 5 minutes a night, 50-odd games a year. He now coaches a team that has a reputation for not being able to handle the rough stuff, has no one like that in their system, and just signed Geertsen to a contract. I have a feeling we’re going to see this guy this year. What you predict, or what you prefer?

Oh I wish I could be but not any more. There's just nothing. They have botched this rebuild (if you start with Eichel, Reinhart, Risto trades as the starting point) so badly I don't see a fix. Now I think the only thing that can save this franchise is Terry giving up, handing the team over to his kid and retiring to Florida. She fires everybody and lets Jarmo start a new rebuild as GM with full authority to hire whoever and he cleans house and moves out the entire roster and we just start again like an expansion team. Clean slate. Actual NHL people running the thing. Can't be any worse.

Would Holloway or Byfield become our 1C? They gotta be a better option than Kulich, right? But then Kulich can slide over to wing?

Benson-Norris-Tage Zucker-Kulich-Tuch Quinn-McLeod-Doan Danforth-Krebs-Greenway Malenstyn the 13th Forward

That meme brings to mind a story I read that the Flyers were off season training with some UFC guy so wtf is that about? Maybe they really are planning on being the Broad Street Bullies again. I like Kesselring. I don't know anything about Doan other than his lineage which might give false hope that he's like dad but the idea that the Sabres are substantially harder to play against now is kind of far fetched. We moved up a little maybe from softest team in the league but we're still on the mid to low side league wide in terms of team toughness.

Trying to be optimistic, oh who the hell am I kidding

You think he'll manage 50? I say 40 max.

Well yes and a lot of Bruins fans are upset with the Jeannot signing and it's splitting the fan base for sure. Much talk about overpays for bottom end players. But this is the thing. What was the discussion of Hagens over the last year? Super talented, great speed and skill, creative, but he's kind of small. Hughes comparisons. He could get crunched in the NHL. That was the talk. So what do they do? Get him a bodyguard plain and simple. That to me seems pretty smart. The future of that team rests on how good (or bad) Hagens is.

Yes but my point is everything is relative. If you get slightly harder to play against and your opposition gets even harder to play against you are no longer hard to play against relatively speaking.

I've probably gone on this site a 100 times since Tuesday hoping to see a shiny new Bo Byram trade thread pinned at the top of the Aud Club. Still nothing. 😞

Geertsen isn’t making any NHL team and whoever scouted him needs to be fired! Have seen him play a lot on the Silver Knights and he’s nothing more than a minor leaguer. He’s not that good of a player but he will drop the gloves!

How injured is Holloway? Also are we getting the version that played with Blues or Oilers or in between?