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Its both that need to be used: Watching the game and seeing that the goaltending and some of the defense suck is still very valuable but i also like the charts as sometimes they tell other stories about this team: The defense isnt as good as it seems, or as bad as it seems. Analytics and eye test should and can exist.
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If I remember PA’s line of work correctly, I know everyone had their kinks, but I hope this one is very rare.
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Jets have made the playoffs 7 times of the last 8 years. Of those 7 appearances, Hellebuyck has played well enough to advance beyond the first round 3 of the 7 times. No room for making the playoffs and winning rounds on the Buffalo Sabres And? The exception that proves the rule? Yzerman is the clear statistical outlier along with Adams. We have tried every “strategy” at one point or another. Showing me the failure behind door number 3 ala Monty hall doesn’t prove anything: there will always be a fail we can point to
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I don't care about making the playoffs. I care about winning playoff series. To the bold, that's been Yzermans plan. Hasn't worked great.
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I think he has a type. Norris is it to a T. Buy low, if things go really well there’s a ton of value to be mined. It’s the “hey, we think there might be a little something here, actually” guys. “Oh with a bigger role this guy should really blossom.” He loves high ceiling players, questionable floor players It has been quite blindly obvious to this poster’s eyes for a very long time that the Buffalo Sabres need to be in the business of targeting the maximization of the floor we’ve been using future verbiage for far, far too long. Give me the guy who is most likely will provide good value: not the guy who has the best chance of producing great “I still don’t want Hellebuyck” ”I don’t care about making the playoffs”
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One could argue Adams has been addressing overall talent. I still don't want Hellebuyck. He turns into UPL during the playoffs.
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No one wanted Hellebuyck when I was arguing to sell out for him
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That's correct. Even if you "shift" Samuelsson's and Clifton's money to Byram, you still have to allocate cap for their replacements.
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I been asking for better goaltending for a while now. They seem to still be hanging onto the hope that Levi can be better. UPL should not have been our starter.
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The Knights were done as soon as they lost both games 1 and 2, they got lucky in game 3 but all they did was delay the inevitable! It’s too much to ask any team to win 4 of the next 5 with 3 of them on the road.
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It is todays style. As is skinny leg pants, no socks, and shoes.
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Data can be misleading the sabres were 11th in goals against two season ago and 23rd in offence. Then they flipped. Young team. address the overall talent I’ve been calling it a shell game for 3 literal years. Why can’t I just be right? I’ve called every single Adams aspect starting with Eichel. Like, MAYBE I just have the pulse on this guy? No? Ok carry on.
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But Byram's already packed up his Buffalo house, so...
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The bold has all the making of a Penthouse Forum story.
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Who's our green goalie? The one we won't be signing this offseason? Because the data presented in this thread suggest otherwise. That's the point of the thread.
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Meh, I don’t really think the few LW that can only play LW need represent an obstacle to my thought process here. I know Marner can play both side, for example. if I can get a better player, for the same relative cost, I’m going with the better player regardless of position that’s my outlook at least
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After every single goal in the league you'll see guys standing around while the puck goes into the back of the net. There's nothing like a goal to make a defender look dumb.
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Yes, Rayzor's link to RJ would be missed. I often watch the Sabre games using the opponents broadcast, and it is amazing how often the other teams announcers comment on Ray and enjoy some humor with him. Ray is a throwback to when the Sabres were a real team and when the played in front of packed and passionate crowds. Those days are long gone. It is sad how many hockey seasons have been wasted in the irrelevance.
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I don't agree. You have finite assets, just acquiring the best say LW is silly. We need a defender, you only pigeon hole yourself if you decide you must make a move. If you can't find that veteran defender, you do have to hold. I do agree that it's harder because Adams is up against it.
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If you took a poll of Eastern Conference coaches and asked which team had the best defense this year, If it wasn't Washington or Florida it would be Carolina. Where are they according to the WAR charts? Not in the top half in D or goaltending. Without considering how the forwards play defense I think it's just a exercise in frustration. All the parts fit together and if one part is weak then the whole thing is probably weak. It can be an individual player or pairing. It can be a forward who thinks getting back in the zone is for other people. It can be a goal tender who goes from shutout to giving up 5 the next time out. I know all the analytics try to parse this out but it seems incredibly difficult when it comes to hockey. I know this much I never want to see Bryson with Clifton ever again.
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Sabres looking for Senior Advisor for Adams and Hockey Department
Pimlach replied to LGR4GM's topic in The Aud Club
So, you own a bottom feeder team for 14 straight years, one that players and coaches avoid, and you ask a Hall of Fame VP/GM with 4 Stanley Cups to work for Kevyn Adams? Holland wants day to day control of the team. Terry is sticking with Adams and wanted Holland for an Advisory role. Terry is embarrassing. How does he even have that conversation with Holland, or did he have Adams reach out to him? I would love to know who talked to Holland. Either way, not a serious team. - Today
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My commentary wasn’t on the usefulness of doing so in terms of entertaining one self online merely in fixing the standings placement ie it wasn’t just “that won’t work”, i made the argument on how to fix it, too . It wasn’t, “don’t have the discussion”, it was “this discussion isn’t going to get the team to the place people think it will.” If Adams hyperfocuses on one area, he’ll do so to the tune of ignoring the rest, as we’ve seen, and he’ll probably get ripped off cause everyone knows he’s over a barrel he should use the assets we can to acquire the best (VETERAN) player possible regardless of position maximize the return, THEN fill out the rest of your plan. Adams always pigeonholes himself
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If you can get Byram for that for 6yrs no more, and then move at least Samuelsson out, I can see this working but 7.5x6yrs is the ceiling.
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Some of us like to entertain ourselves by analyzing and 'fixing' the roster.